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== RfD archival... ==
Hello,
Since the RfDs are archived by year, I propose that we make a rush and close all RfDs i such a way that on years end (UTC), there are no open RfDs. Else we face the problem that an RfD running form December 27 to January 2 will get a 2016 tag, even though most of it was in 2015. What do other people think? --[[User:Eptalon|Eptalon]] ([[User talk:Eptalon|talk]]) 21:58, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
:I think it's a good idea. We also might consider a cutoff date for no new RfDs and notify everyone. [[User:Rus793|User:Rus793]] ([[User talk:Rus793|talk]]) 22:05, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
::Last start date for an RFD is December 25 (UTC); all RFDs close by end of December 30 (UTC)?--[[User:Eptalon|Eptalon]] ([[User talk:Eptalon|talk]]) 22:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
:Could you bring this up at [[WP:AN]] where we have a similar thread? I think the consensus thete was that no special handling is needed. --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 23:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
:Guys, this isn't really an issue. It doesn't in anyway actually matter. As long as it is archived somewhere then it is fine. We should not be holding off on Rfds because people are concerned where they will archive. And to be honest most of the things we archive, like RfAs archive by the date they close not the date they opened. It's just because of the weird coding that someone at sometime created for Rfds that cause this issue. If it concerns you someone can easily go and move the links to the correct archive afterwards. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso|talk]]) 19:18, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
::Less than a week left till new years, so I think we should just disallow RfDs from now 'til 2016. [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 16:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:To add on to what Djsasso said, the current archiving system that we are using is "year-neutral": all our closed RfDs are placed in either [[:Category:Requests for deletion that did not succeed]] or [[:Category:Requests for deletion that succeeded]], which do not sort by year (and frankly, are a big mess for people who are interested in past discussions, but this is a problem for another day). The only place where the year will differ will be on the deletion tab itself. This is because [[MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown]] uses Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/'''{{CURRENTYEAR}}'''/{{FULLPAGENAME}} to dynamically generate the deletion reason you see in the dropdown list. {{tl|oldrfdfull}} may be affected as well, but that's only if you are using the year= parameter (to generate the RfD link, which you should) and you get the years wrong. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]</font> 17:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
== Holidays! ==
To those who celebrate [[Christmas]], I want to wish you a Merry Christmas. If you do not celebrate Christmas, then Happy [[Holiday]]s! If you do not celebrate Christmas or any other holidays this time of year, then have a nice day. If you do not celebrate Christmas, nor any other holidays this time of year, and you live north of the [[Arctic Circle]] where it is perpetually dark this time of year, then have a nice [[polar night|night]]! (There, that ought to cover just about everyone!) <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 11:36, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
: Thank you Etamni. May you and your family have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year :) --[[User:Grind24|Grind24]] ([[User talk:Grind24|talk]]) 12:13, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
:: Happy Christmas, all. ;) --[[User:Caliburn|George]] <small>([[User_talk:Caliburn|Talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Caliburn|Contribs]] · [[Special:CentralAuth/Caliburn|CentralAuth]] · [[Special:Log/Caliburn|Log]])</small> 21:20, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
:w000000000000000000000000000000t! I am leaving for vacation for a WEEEEEK! NO MORE STINKEH VANDALZ FOR ME!!!!!!!!!! (But I am taking my computer :( ) [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 21:28, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
::I love the vista of snow---you're lucky I'm even checking Wikipedia. [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 16:51, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
== VisualEditor News #6—2015 ==
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'''Did you know?'''
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A new, simpler system for editing will offer a single Edit button. Once the page has opened, you can switch back and forth between visual and wikitext editing.
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If you prefer having separate edit buttons, then you can set that option in your preferences, either in a pop-up dialog the next time you open the visual editor, or by going to [[Special:Preferences]] and choosing the setting that you want: <br><br>[[File:VisualEditor single edit tab in preferences 2015-12-18.png|alt=Screenshot showing a drop-down menu in Special:Preferences|centre|frameless|230x230px]]
The current plan is for the default setting to have the Edit button open the editing environment you used most recently. <br><br>You can read and help translate [[:mw:VisualEditor/User guide|the user guide]], which has more information about how to use the visual editor.
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''[[m:VisualEditor/Newsletter/2015/December|Read this in another language]] • [[:m:VisualEditor/Newsletter|Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter]]''
Since the last newsletter, the [[mw:VisualEditor|visual editor team]] has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available [[phab:project/board/483/|in Phabricator]]. Their [[mediawikiwiki:VisualEditor/Current_priorities|current priorities]] are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.
=== Recent improvements ===
You can '''switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor''' after you start editing.
The '''LaTeX mathematics formula editor''' has been significantly expanded. ([[phab:T118616|T118616)]] You can see the formula as you change the LaTeX code. You can click buttons to insert the correct LaTeX code for many symbols.
=== Future changes ===
The '''single edit tab''' project will combine the "{{int:vector-view-edit}}" and "{{int:visualeditor-ca-editsource}}" tabs into a single "{{int:vector-view-edit}}" tab, like the system already used on the mobile website. ([[phab:T102398|T102398]], [[phab:T58337|T58337]]) Initially, the "{{int:vector-view-edit}}" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as a cookie for logged-out users and as an account preference for logged-in editors. Logged-in editors will be able to set a default editor in the {{int:prefs-editing}} tab of [[Special:Preferences]] in the drop-down menu about "{{int:visualeditor-preference-tabs}}".
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: [[w:am:|Amharic]], [[w:bug:|Buginese]], [[w:cdo:|Min Dong]], [[w:cr:|Cree]], [[w:gv:|Manx]], [[w:hak:|Hakka]], [[w:hy:|Armenian]], [[w:ka:|Georgian]], [[w:pnt:|Pontic]], [[w:sh:|Serbo-Croatian]], [[w:ti:|Tigrinya]], [[w:xmf:|Mingrelian]], [[w:za:|Zhuang]], and [[w:zh-min-nan:|Min Nan]]. ([[phab:T116523|T116523]]) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at [[:mw:Topic:St8y4ni42d0vr9cv|the feedback thread on mediawiki.org]]. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.
In 2016, the '''feedback pages''' for the visual editor on many Wikipedias will be redirected to mediawiki.org. ([[phab:T92661|T92661]])
=== Testing opportunities ===
* Please try the new system for the '''single edit tab''' on [https://test2.wikipedia.org test2.wikipedia.org]. You can edit while logged out to see how it works for logged-out editors, or you can create a separate account to be able to set your account's preferences. <mark>Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at [[mediawikiwiki:Topic:Suspcq0bf5nd3gsd|the feedback topic on mediawiki.org]] or [https://jfe.qualtrics.com/form/SV_6R04ammTX8uoJFP sign up for formal user research]</mark> (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
** {{int:visualeditor-preference-tabs-remember-last}},
** {{int:visualeditor-preference-tabs-prefer-ve}},
** {{int:visualeditor-preference-tabs-prefer-wt}}, and
** {{int:visualeditor-preference-tabs-multi-tab}}. (This is the current state for people already using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
* <mark>Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese?</mark> Language engineer [[mw:User:DChan (WMF)|David Chan]] needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at [[mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test|What to test]] if you can help, and report it on Phabricator ([[phab:T110654|Korean]] - [[phab:T109818|Japanese]]) or on Wikipedia ([[:ko:위키백과:시각편집기/IME|Korean]] - [[:ja:Wikipedia:ビジュアルエディター/フィードバック/IME|Japanese]]).
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== Template "cite web" ==
The "cite web" template on EnWiki has a parameter named "website" which appears to be for the same purpose as the parameter "work" on the ''Simple'' version of the template. Is it possible (without someone having to spend hours and hours on it) to get instances of "website" automatically mapped to the "work" parameter? I have no idea how many times citations from EnWiki have been copied over, but this information simply does not display the way it was intended when the citations were created, and it is unlikely that very many editors are aware that this particular template works differently here than on EnWiki. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 02:52, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Etamni}} The only way I can think of doing that would be to copy and paste the desired text into a Microsoft Word document, use the find and replace tool there, then paste it back onto the article, replacing "website=" with "work=" to avoid replacing the word "website", which may appear in an article outside of citations. If it's a problem on a very large scale here, AWB could be used to replace "website=" with "work=". I hope this helps, [[User:Rubbish computer|''Rubbish computer'']] ([[User talk:Rubbish computer|''HALP!'']]: [[Special:Contributions/Rubbish computer|''I dropped the bass?'']]) 14:27, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
::{{ec}}{{ping|Rubbish computer}} I guess I was trying to suggest that the template itself needs the term mapped differently. In other words if someone has "website=" within the "cite web" reference, our version of the template would know to put that content into the "work=" parameter. We could search and replace the text, but the next citation brought over from EnWiki might have the same thing, since that is how the template works there. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 14:40, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes, there is. Are there many pages effected by this? (want to make sure before making a change on such a widely used template) --[[User:Caliburn|George]] <small>([[User_talk:Caliburn|Talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Caliburn|Contribs]] · [[Special:CentralAuth/Caliburn|CentralAuth]] · [[Special:Log/Caliburn|Log]])</small> 14:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure of the extent of the problem. Some background: The web citation tool that appears at the top of the edit window, does not work correctly for me here on ''Simple''. When creating citations that use the "cite web" template, I've been visiting my sandbox on EnWiki and creating the citations there, then copying them over. Now if the problem is limited to just those citations I made over there, it would be easy enough to find them and change each instance of "website=" to "work=" but, and this is the kicker, a very large number of our articles here on Simple were brought over from EnWiki, so it is impossible for me to even guess how many instances of "website=" exists in all of the references in all of those articles. Looking at the documentation for the template on EnWiki, "work=" is an alias for "website=" there. Perhaps the simplest change would be to do the same here (or the opposite -- I think the result would be the same). The ideal solution would be for either term to work so that any reference brought over in the future will work the same on either project. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 15:25, 28 December 2015 (UTC) ''Edit to add a ping''. {{ping|Caliburn}} (note that I'm going offline shortly, back tomorrow.) <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 15:32, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::{{Done}} --[[User:Caliburn|George]] <small>([[User_talk:Caliburn|Talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Caliburn|Contribs]] · [[Special:CentralAuth/Caliburn|CentralAuth]] · [[Special:Log/Caliburn|Log]])</small> 15:36, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::As a curious note on the background comment, I will say that the web citation tool does not work for me either. Never has, and I have two browsers available (IE and Chrome). I have to create a reference for here on EnWiki and then copy and paste. I just thought it was a quirk for me. [[User:Fylbecatulous|<b style="color:#595454">Fylbecatulous</b>]] [[User talk:Fylbecatulous|<b style="color:#DB7093">talk</b>]] 19:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:{{od|4}} ''I am starting a new topic, below, to discuss the web citation tool.'' <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 05:30, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
== Stub sorting ==
Hi, do you do stub sorting here now, or are stubs still supposed to be kept in one category? Thanks, [[User:Rubbish computer|''Rubbish computer'']] ([[User talk:Rubbish computer|''HALP!'']]: [[Special:Contributions/Rubbish computer|''I dropped the bass?'']]) 14:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:We do stub sort, to some extent, but not as excessively as enwiki. We have more general categories like science, music, biographies etc., but avoid specific templates that can only be used in limited instances. See [[:Category:Stub_templates|here]] for our stub template category ;) --[[User:Caliburn|George]] <small>([[User_talk:Caliburn|Talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Caliburn|Contribs]] · [[Special:CentralAuth/Caliburn|CentralAuth]] · [[Special:Log/Caliburn|Log]])</small> 15:42, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|Caliburn}} Thanks! [[User:Rubbish computer|''Rubbish computer'']] ([[User talk:Rubbish computer|''HALP!'']]: [[Special:Contributions/Rubbish computer|''I dropped the bass?'']]) 17:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:We also discourage stub sorting for the sake of stub sorting. Please do it only if you're going to actively work on expanding the articles you sort. --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 18:39, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
== Shri Lakshmi Narasimha Devasthaana of Shurpali ==
Shri Laxmi Narasimha Devasthaana of Shurpali lies on the bank of river Krishna, the temple is said to be of historical importance. The temple is about 8 KM from Jamkhandi of Bagalkot district in the state of Karnataka ''<small>—This unsigned comment was added by</small>''<small> [[User:Rkalkeri|Rkalkeri]] ([[User talk:Rkalkeri|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rkalkeri|changes]]) 11:30, 29 December 2015 (UTC)</small>
:{{ping|Bkalkeri}}, I guess I'm wondering why you mentioned that here? <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 15:13, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
== aBUSE filter!! ==
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No, when typing the word "abuse" I did not have caps lock on, it's because if I was speaking it IRL I would put the stress on the "buse" part of it. Anyway, after almost half a year of reverting vandalism, I've discovered some patterns. I was wondering if I could propose some edits to the abuse filter in a Google Doc or something and an admin could add them to the filter? I am familiar with the text you must use as I am sysop on another wiki that uses abuse filter. As far as sysop's emails go, I only have Auntof6's, Chenzw, and Djsasso's (I both discovered and posted them in ABC order!). Anyone thing it's a good idea? [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 05:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:An abuse filter to prevent abuse is fine; but what particular pattern were you looking at, and are you sure your proposed filter wouldn't also filter out good edits? <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 05:30, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::Please list your proposed changes here. If you think the filter suggestion is too sensitive to be seen in public, use [[Special:Emailuser]]. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]</font> 05:43, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:::As a side note, you can e-mail any sysop (or other user) who has turned on this feature (and most have) by using the e-mail function on the left side of the screen (non-mobile version) when you are on their user page or talk page. If they haven't turned on this feature, then they don't want e-mail. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 05:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:As Etamni said, you can email any admin using the "Email user" feature. (Admins are required to allow emailing that way.) You don't need to know their actual email addresses. You can also email the admins' email list (simple-admins-l@lists.wikimedia.org) so that all admins see the email. In either case, please use email only where needed. There are very few cases where you need to conduct business by email: we prefer to conduct it in the open unless it involves something sensitive or confidential.
:Besides that, please try to keep your communication direct and to the point. It is not necessary to have a "cute" heading, nor to explain why you used it. --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 06:06, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::I wanted to use the spreadsheet feature and intended to make the document public. BTW, I'm pretty sure only admins who intend to block people need to have email turned on. I'll create it tomorrow. [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 06:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:::Also, I wanted their emails not to send them email, but so they could have Edit permission on the document. On second thought, I'll just make my requested filters in a subpage of my userpage. Go to [[Special:MovePage/User:Krett12/AbuseFilter|the move page]] and scroll down to see all subpages. [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 06:37, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:::You are wrong. '''All''' administrators must be contactable through the wiki's "Email user" function. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]</font> 06:56, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::::[[User:Krett12/AbuseFilter/Removing Too Much Text]] has already been implemented in [[Special:AbuseFilter/6|abuse filter 6]]. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]</font> 06:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::Could it be made public? [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 07:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::No. I meant that your idea had already been implemented a few years ago in abuse filter 6. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]</font> 07:41, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::[[User:Krett12/AbuseFilter/Adding Too Much Text]] had already been implemented in [[Special:AbuseFilter/7|filter 7]]. [[User:Krett12/AbuseFilter/Rude Text In Articles]] is invalid syntax. Also, the abuse filter on this wiki is not configured (and not allowed) to block users automatically. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:brown">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:brown">Talk</span>]]</font> 07:53, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Could I temporarily be given the ability to view private abuse filters (as a solo right)? Also, blocking users works fine on my test wiki, why shouldn't it here? (besides that it's not allowed). [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 15:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Could you fix Rude Text In Articles? I'm not sure what's wrong with it... [[User:Krett12|Krett12]] ([[User talk:Krett12|talk]]) 16:05, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
{{od}} All above requests '''denied'''. The abuse filter is doing its job well, and so far I have not been seeing anything new that is being proposed. This wiki is not configured to grant rights for viewing private abuse filter, and even if it was configured, I am definitely not going to grant it to you. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]</font> 03:34, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
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== Citation tool ==
[[File:Reftoolbar2-toolbar.png|right|thumb|400px|The modified toolbar]]
[[File:Reftoolbar2-template.png|thumb|right|400px|An example of a template dialog]]
In a section above, I mentioned that the citation tool does not work for me here on ''Simple'' (although it works fine for me on ''EnWiki''). I had been assuming it was something with how my computer is set up, or my preferences here. Then [[user:Fylbecatulous|Fylbecatulous]] mentioned having the same issue. So now I'm wondering how common this is, and what can be done to fix the issue. (For those who are not sure what I am talking about, at the top of the edit window that opens after clicking ''change source'', there is a toolbar. One of the options is "cite" and, when it is clicked, a dropdown box labeled "Templates" opens. On ''EnWiki'' clicking those links opens a form where the information for a reference can be entered, and the form itself will properly format the reference when the user clicks on the "insert" button.) So if anyone else is having this issue, or not having this issue, feel free to comment below. If anyone knows of a simple solution, that would be appreciated as well. If this is affecting everyone here, how do we fix it? <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 05:30, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:I believe you are talking about the VisualEditor's cite tool (the one with the "Cite" text and some downward pointing arrow beside it)? They are currently not working because we did not insert the [[mw:Help:TemplateData|TemplateData]] ([[mw:VisualEditor/Portal/TemplateData|more info]]) into our citation templates when VisualEditor was introduced. I have inserted TemplateData for the most common parameters in {{tl|cite web}}. Can you try it out now and see if you can insert a citation for a web source? [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]</font> 06:10, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::Hi [[user:Chenzw|Chenzw]]. I'm pretty sure the toolbar I am referring to is <u>not</u> part of Visual Editor, unless it's a part that was implemented long ago. On EnWiki, the toolbar I am referring to has a help page, and here is a link to it: '''[//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_toolbar Edit Toolbar on EnWiki]'''. In researching this, I also found that the very specific tool I am referring to has more information '''[//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RefToolbar/2.0 here]'''. It is presented in an EnWiki context, but includes some information about porting the tool to other Wikis. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 08:14, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:::I have updated the gadget JS, and that seems to have fixed the problem. Please purge your browser cache and take a look. Not sure which was the offending line in the previous version, though. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:brown">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:brown">Talk</span>]]</font> 08:42, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::::Well that was easy! Thank you for fixing that. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 09:56, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::{{U|Chenzw}} and {{U|Etamni}}, beautiful ツ ツ This now works! I am even able to keep my favourite browser and skin. Thanks so much. It is the little things, sometimes... Thanks both, for pursuing this. [[User:Fylbecatulous|<b style="color:#595454">Fylbecatulous</b>]] [[User talk:Fylbecatulous|<b style="color:#DB7093">talk</b>]] 15:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Well done everyone :) --[[User:Peterdownunder|Peterdownunder]] ([[User talk:Peterdownunder|talk]]) 20:56, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
== DYK again ==
Some people may not have seen [[User:Only|Only's]] [[Wikipedia:Simple talk/Archive 115#DYK|thread in early Dec]] about this issue, but there has been another recent update to [[T:DYK]], which is also problematic:
*Of the 5 hooks featured in this update, 3 hooks have used the same source (Buzzfeed), which is not even a reliable source in itself. Furthermore, the references are not even formatted properly. Since that particular Buzzfeed article has linked to other RS, the other RS should be cited instead.
*Hook 1 is inaccurate; the correct name of the gene is "happyhour" (all lowercase, without spaces).
*Hook 3 is inaccurate; [[Psycho (1960 movie)|Psycho]] was the first motion picture to feature a toilet '''being flushed''' (as stated in source).
*I am not 100% sure of this, but hook 5 may have an issue with grammar. Perhaps it should be worded "the slowest '''speed''' light ever recorded moving was at is 38 mph?"
Again, there is a major problem with DYK being maintained on a user page with almost zero peer review in the process. Page history on [[Template talk:Did you know]] and [[User:TDKR Chicago 101]] suggests that the DYK process has been held on TDKR's user page since early August this year. DYK content goes on the Main Page; we should not be allowing such a slipshod workflow.
I did not revert this update, but have full-protected [[T:DYK]] for now. This protection will expire automatically after 2 weeks (someone will need to restore it back to semi-protection), although I hope we can come to an understanding here before then. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]</font> 08:21, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:Agree that this is an issue. I usually don't stop on the home page when loading ''Simple'' but, yes, these inaccuracies do matter. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 08:37, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
::Firstly, the DYK used to be supervised better, and secondly, many would-be editors do not write simple sentences in active voice. I have edited the source page to read "The slowest light ever recorded moved at 38 [[mph]]". [[User:Macdonald-ross|Macdonald-ross]] ([[User talk:Macdonald-ross|talk]]) 16:32, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:Pff. Am I reading this right; hooks go [[Template talk:Did you know]] → [[User:TDKR Chicago 101]] → [[Template:Did you know]]? Or am I seeing things? [[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 03:56, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
::I think they skip [[T:TDYK]] already. I mentioned on TDKR's user talk - I don't wish to see DYK going away either, but this is a small wiki (seems to be getting smaller in recent months) and we should not be rushing around with some deadline to get things done and push out work that is not up to previous standards. Also, I note that there was not much attempt to contact other editors to help out (with DYK). [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]</font> 04:00, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
:::You're not kidding. The [https:https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=simple&q=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=5273534&oldid=5273524 latest revision] to TTDYK is an unreviewed hook being moved to the "queue". [[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 04:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
::::* I'd like to apologize for my disruptive edits towards the DYK community. I didn't mean to cause any harm to the Wikipedia. My main goal is to improve not ruin it. I just didn't want the DYK to go dead. I thought as the only one, well I thought as the only one it was up to me to manage DYK. It was against it's rules and I understand it now. I just enjoyed updating it though. I don't know why but it'd get excited every time it'd see something interesting and think "It'd be nice for the DYK". I felt like I actually accomplished something that the community can see and be proud of. But that's not an excuse. I know I may have pissed some you users off and I'm sorry. This will never happen again. I've thought about it. I'll be retiring sometime next year, maybe summer 2016. I leave this duty due to too much tasks at hand in life, trying to achieve more things and further more to prevent causing more problems. Instead of helping it I've been a bother. This feeling has been developing a lot overtime and I'm not sure if there's a guideline about not nagging for so much so I leave with an apology. I'm sorry you guys/girls. --[[User:TDKR Chicago 101|TDKR Chicago 101]] ([[User talk:TDKR Chicago 101|talk]]) 04:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
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It's not that bad, TDKR. I don't think you've been disruptive (I haven't been here in a while, but it looks like you've been keeping DYK alive pretty much single-handedly). It is kind of a shame that DYK doesn't get more traffic, so I sympathise. I don't really know what the answer is, but proposing, reviewing, queuing and then posting your own hooks on the main page is probably not it. If DYK is still anything like what it was when I left, then I'd sooner see it turned into a yearly or twice-yearly activity. Like a variation of that Big Weekend thing, where it's like one week every year or every six months or something, people sign up to focus on filling the DYK queues. Then space out the updates to last us to the next one. People used to get really into the Big Weekends. There was an incentive to edit, it was community-building and all that. And there'd be a bunch of editors involved all at once so the quality would be so much better than what we've got at the moment, which is pretty much just one editor proposing hooks that have issues but never get reviewed. [[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 04:35, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
::I would like to apologise to to [[User:TDKR Chicago 101|TDKR Chicago 101]] for not giving him the support needed to keep DYK going. The complaints about a few errors should be directed at the whole community, not TDKR. I think he has done a great job maintaining this feature of our Wikipedia, with little, if any support from the rest of us. We should be looking for solutions to assist TDKR in keeping the page going, not searching for errors in what he has done. So, TDKR, keep up the good work, and for the rest of us (me included), lets get behind him and make it work.--[[User:Peterdownunder|Peterdownunder]] ([[User talk:Peterdownunder|talk]]) 22:13, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
:::Do you have suggestions for how to make that work and have a better process? It seems that there isn't a community desire to work with DYK. How do we make users want to do it and want to contribute? [[User:Only|Only]] ([[User talk:Only|talk]]) 22:45, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
:* Thanks everyone. I'll do everything that I can to work with the community in keeping the DYK community alive and working. I remember awhile ago there was a week devoted to creating rivers around the world. I was a new user and I was excited. Maybe like a big weekend event to DYK. I don't know that's the best that I can think of at this moment. In the English Wikipedia they have users solely dedicated to reviewing hooks and updating it, but the problem is there's no one nominating. Plus the DYK is not the biggest thing, there are other things. --[[User:TDKR Chicago 101|TDKR Chicago 101]] ([[User talk:TDKR Chicago 101|talk]]) 23:02, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
:For the time being, I have tried to restart the whole editorial process by sending a few problematic hooks from queue 1 back to the nomination page. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:black">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]</font> 14:51, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
::Is there any reason why we can't recycle some hooks from three or more years back (assuming that they are updated and checked)?--[[User:Peterdownunder|Peterdownunder]] ([[User talk:Peterdownunder|talk]]) 05:21, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
===And again?===
While loading the page, I see the "Happy Hour" vs. "happyhour" discrepancy, and others, are still showing up in the DYK. I think we just need to recruit some Wiki-gnomes from EnWiki to help with this.... <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 19:34, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
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== Happy Public Domain Day 2016! ==
[[File:Logo PDD 2016.svg|200px|right|Logo Public Domain Day]]
On January 1 we celebrate [[w:en:Public Domain Day|Public Domain Day]] as many works of authors who died 70+ years ago now enter the public domain and can be used freely.
Let us be aware: copyright is temporary. It only lasts during the authors lifetime and 70 years afterwards (in most countries). During those years it is limiting Wikipedia and her sister projects in showing works of art, literature, public art and buildings in countries without [[w:en:Freedom of panorama|freedom of panorama]], and more in the articles. But now a new batch is freed from copyrights!
An overview of images and texts that are restored or added to the Wikimedia Commons, are collected on: [[c:User:Romaine/Public_Domain_Day/2016|this page]].
Many of these files still need a place in articles. You can help!
You can also help by uploading new files of subjects that are freed of copyrights.<br />
You can also help by tagging all requests for deletion pages with the [[c:Category:Undeletion requests|category]] when the file can be restored, which will be/was deleted.
As I follow the log of restored files this week, more images and texts will follow. If still files or texts are missing in the list, let me know or add them yourselves.
A very happy Public Domain Day! [[User:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[User talk:Romaine|talk]]) 13:20, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
* Some of the freed files:
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File:Leifur heppni (603381304).jpg|[[Leif Erikson]]
File:Leif Ericsson.jpg
File:Pennsylvania Memorial 4.jpg
File:El Lissitzky 002.jpg|[[El Lissitzky]]
File:Book cover by El Lissitzky c1918.jpg
File:Mallet-stevens1.JPG
File:Ost Xaveriuscollege15.JPG|[[Alfred Ost]]
File:Pasternak palestina.jpg|[[Leonid Pasternak]]
File:Pasternak Ansky.jpg
File:Maison sans escalier1.JPG
File:Halimeda 3.png
File:Goldap 1914.jpg
File:Preignac Mam.jpg
File:Holcombe Moor NT sign - geograph.org.uk - 341806.jpg
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== Stub articles ==
Hello. I had a question about procedures here on simple wiki - I noticed that there are a lot of redlinks and pages that need to be created. I'm not good at content creation, but I rather enjoy making stubs that take a stab at basic explanations of topics. (See my recent changes for examples.) Is that kind of thing helpful and allowed here at Simple, or am I just being unintentionally disruptive? I'd ask in a less public place, but there doesn't seem to be a Teahouse here or any kind of editor review. Thank you. [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 21:56, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
:Your edits are very welcome and appreciated. A short stub is nearly always better than a red link so your contributions are helpful, not disruptive. We do like our stubs to have two or three sentences, to provide some basic level of meaning, and yours are no problem. To make them better you could add a reference, and/or picture from Commons.--[[User:Peterdownunder|Peterdownunder]] ([[User talk:Peterdownunder|talk]]) 22:19, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
::Oh, thank you so much. I was a bit worried since I've been having a hard time on en-wiki trying to find a niche. I'll also try to incorporate references and images where I can on the stubs - that's a great idea. [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 22:26, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
:Also, it's nice if you include appropriate categories, not just stub templates. Our categories (including stub categories) are somewhat different from enwiki's, though. If you'd like help figuring out good categories, feel free to ask: categories are sort of my specialty. :) Also, please note that I deleted the page you created for "episode" -- we prefer not to have cross-wiki links like that, either as redirects or within articles. Let me know if you have any questions, and welcome to Simple English Wikipedia! --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 23:01, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
::Understood about the categories. I'll try to incorporate those as well as the pictures and adding references. I'm surprised you don't do the cross-wiki links, but thank you for pointing that out - I'll do what I can to avoid those in future. Is it acceptable to just link (not redirect) to the Simple Dictionary, however? I've done that a couple times now but can revert if need be. [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 23:09, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
:::If there's any chance at all that there could be an article someday, it's better to leave it as a red link. <s>If we link to Wiktionary, and an article is created in the future, nobody is likely to go back and change all the Wiktionary links even if we could find them.</s> If a page redirects to Wiktionary, it's less likely that an article would get created. That's because it won't show up as a red link alerting us to the need for the article.--[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 23:16, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
::::That makes sense. I'll do some quick changing then. [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 23:19, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::I just modified what I said, because I was explaining the wrong thing. My original explanation was the reason for not having Wiktionary links in articles. Sorry for the confusion! --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 02:46, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
::::::No worries. I've found a way of getting the information across regardless... it actually may be more efficient in the long run. Or at least more educational. Thank you for clarifying though! [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 03:04, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
*I disagree with the advice about Simple wikt. We have only agreed that links to English wiktionary should not be used. Simple wiktionary was created for this wiki, and it is an absolutely invaluable resource. Red links can and do stay red for ten years, and often for five years. ''So long as a wikt item exists, we should use it'' in preference to a red link. It's not possible to say "sorry, you'll have to wait until someone does a page" when we only have about ten people doing regular page editing, and less than five regularly editing on general subjects. Naturally, there is an overlap between the content of wikt and our content. Of course, where we need a page we should develop one, and where we have one, links should go there in preference to wikt. I'm bound to say, though, that wikt pages are often better and more correct than some of our stubs. Communicating to our readers is our prime task: if wikt helps, use it. [[User:Macdonald-ross|Macdonald-ross]] ([[User talk:Macdonald-ross|talk]]) 07:39, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
**No, if it is a subject that would normally have an article here then a red link is always preferable to a wiktionary link. If all you are trying to do is link to a definition that is fine, but if its a topic that would normally have an encyclopedic article then you should be leaving it as a red link so as to not give the false impression that the article is already created and thus doesn't need to be. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso|talk]]) 14:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
***[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] is right up to a point. But "a subject that would normally have an article here" is in and of itself a bit of a subjective call. I'm inclined to prefer a wikt link to a red link in the following situations:
****When all I really need is a definition, and I think that an article is (at best) not going to be written here for a long while. (This is a subjective call, but many of us have a sense about this kind of thing.)
****When there is more than one sense of the word, the Wikipedia article is about one sense only, and it is going to be extremely involved to create an article about the other sense of the word, disambiguate, and so forth. This is especially true when the Wiktionary entry already includes the other sense of the word.
****When use of the non-simple word through inclusion of the wikt link helps substantially simplify the article. [[User:StevenJ81|StevenJ81]] ([[User talk:StevenJ81|talk]]) 20:26, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
*****Perhaps, but the counter argument is, that if you have to rely on wikt links then you should probably be finding other phrasing to use that doesn't use that word. Wikt links when we started using them were only really ever intended for things you absolutely could not explain in any other way and were intended to be sparingly used. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso|talk]]) 15:59, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
******Excellent point: I completely agree. I would add that the fact that it might be a lot of work to create an article for a term is not a good reason to use a shortcut. If anyone is considering using an inline Wiktionary link, I'd be happy to help find an alternative. --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 17:40, 5 January 2016 (UTC) --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 17:40, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
== New WikiProject ==
Hey, I noticed a bunch of red links. Those are bad! I've decided to create a [[User:Notfruit/Computing|new wikiproject]] dedicated to creating pages for a lot of computing topics. Feel free to browse the really long, unorganized list of pages that need creation or improvement, find one you know about, and edit it.
Here it is: [[User:Notfruit/Computing]]
[[User:Notfruit|Notfruit]] ([[User talk:Notfruit|talk]]) 04:22, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
::That's a great list. I don't know if you saw, but I started tackling a couple items last night. Hopefully between us we can knock that redlink list down to a few - or zero - remaining articles soon. [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 11:26, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
:::Red links are not bad...they are good! Think of them as doors waiting to be opened, with article to be written. When the red links have all gone, what shall we do?--[[User:Peterdownunder|Peterdownunder]] ([[User talk:Peterdownunder|talk]]) 11:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
::::We shall... make a lot of very good articles? Become more informative than en-wiki? WORLD DOMINATION?! [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 12:54, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::Yes!--[[User:Peterdownunder|Peterdownunder]] ([[User talk:Peterdownunder|talk]]) 04:47, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
== Sharia law lede image ==
Hello everyone. Just wanted to get some opinions over at [[Sharia_law|Sharia law]] about the article image. Please feel free to come by and leave an opinion! Thank you, and thanks to Auntof6 for the idea to put this here! [[User:Lithorien|Lithorien]] ([[User talk:Lithorien|talk]]) 10:18, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
::{{ping|Lithorien}} Personally I would say that the previous image did not appear [[WP:NPOV|neutral]]; however, the current image does not appear as strictly relevant as the map of use of Sharia law by country (pictured). Thanks, [[User:Rubbish computer|''Rubbish computer'']] ([[User talk:Rubbish computer|''HALP!'']]: [[Special:Contributions/Rubbish computer|''I dropped the bass?'']]) 12:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
[[File:Use of Sharia by country.svg|thumb|right]]
::{{ping|Lithorien}} I agree, the former image did not appear neutral. But the current image has little to do with the subject. In general articles on law are difficult to illustrate. The map showing which countries use Sharia → is one of the very few that are appropriate. Thanks for bringing this up. [[User:Rus793|User:Rus793]] ([[User talk:Rus793|talk]]) 14:53, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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== Why was Template:Page_tabs Removed? ==
The page '''Template:Page_tabs'''<ref>[https:https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=simple&q=Template:Page_tabs&action=edit&redlink=1]</ref> Removed?
I can't see a reason for such a page to be deleted - and In quick deletion.
I found out he writed "g6" which is "Housekeeping" in the Deletion Policy, and I just couldn't understand it.
I also found out - There is no "g6" for Templates removal, only for General - So it must be the "Housekeeping" Certia.
[[User:SleepyMode|SleepyMode]] ([[User talk:SleepyMode|talk]]) 13:24, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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:Hello [[User:SleepyMode|SleepyMode]]! The template known on ''EnWiki'' as "Page Tabs" is simply known as "Tabs" here ([[Template:Tabs]]). Presumably that is a simpler name, although perhaps we should have a redirect for anyone familiar with the name on ''EnWiki''. Note that there are some differences between our version and the EnWiki version (besides the name) but it's quite possible that someone will update the template now that it has been mentioned here. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 15:08, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
::Restored {{tl|Page tabs}} as a redirect to {{tl|Tabs}}, per the above. [[User:StevenJ81|StevenJ81]] ([[User talk:StevenJ81|talk]]) 16:47, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
:{{tps}}Good solution, all. {{ping|SleepyMode}} The general quick deletion options, including [[WP:QD#G6]], can be used for any kind of page, including templates. --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 17:17, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
===Use of an idiom in the QD policy===
Um, the user has implied something that wasn't addressed here: The term ''housekeeping'' is probably not a simple term for someone learning the English language. While not every rule can be written using simple terms, we are using an idiom within a policy. Perhaps we should consider changing the terminology. The current G6 criteria is currently written as: "'''Housekeeping'''. Pages which do not need discussion to be deleted, for example if the page needs to be deleted to merge histories." Any suggestions? <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 12px #ceff00, -4px -4px 12px #ceff00;">[[User:Etamni|Etamni]] | [[User_talk:Etamni|✉ ]]| [[Special:Contributions/Etamni|✓]] </span> 01:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
:Well, it's true that we don't explain the word anywhere, but it should be clear from the sentence which follows it. The sense is "cleaning up" or "sweeping up" as in cleaning the floor. Admins were often called "mops" on English wiki, with the same analogy. Anyway, this is the only time in eight years that I have seen a query about the word 'housekeeping', and I still think it is a good word. [[User:Macdonald-ross|Macdonald-ross]] ([[User talk:Macdonald-ross|talk]]) 08:26, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
:: I would go and agree with [[User:Macdonald-ross|Macdonald-ross]] about it, As I do know what Housekeeping is as I do know proffesional english but, It would be defenatly helpful if It would be changed, For every user around. [[User:SleepyMode|SleepyMode]] ([[User talk:SleepyMode|talk]]) 10:56, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
== Ban proposal for Krett12 ==
A ban proposal is currently in progress for [[User:Krett12]]. Your input on this matter is welcome on the [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Ban_proposal_for_User:Krett12|administrators' noticeboard]]. Thank you for your time. [[User:Chenzw|<span style="color:rgb(96,0,0)">Chenzw</span>]] <font size="1">[[User_talk:Chenzw|<span style="color:rgb(96,0,0)">Talk</span>]]</font> 16:48, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
== Rollback Error? ==
Hello there,
I've recently Noticed I have the ability of '''Rollbacking'' in the simple english wikipedia, if I never applied for this position or got that usergroup?
[[User:SleepyMode|SleepyMode]] ([[User talk:SleepyMode|talk]]) 15:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
:You indeed don't have rollback, and neither do you have global rollback - could it be one of [[Special:Preferences|your gadgets]]? Twinkle is one such gadget which will add rollback links which perform a reversion (by JavaScript) similar to rollback. ''<small>—This unsigned comment was added by</small>''<small> [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chenzw|changes]]) 15:47, 9 January 2016 (UTC) (UTC)</small>
::I do use Twinkle, I had no idea it has it, Thankes for informing me :). [[User:SleepyMode|SleepyMode]] ([[User talk:SleepyMode|talk]]) 15:51, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
== WikiProject Apple Inc ==
I think we should have one on this wiki to help improve Apple Inc. articles as most of them are stubs. There is one on the EN Wikipedia and its helped a lot. I would like other users input please. Thanks [[User:Ipadguy|Ipadguy]] ([[User talk:Ipadguy|talk]]) 23:29, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
:We already have a WikiProject for that. It's at [[User:Quantum4/Wikiproject Apple Inc.]], although it looks like it hasn't been active in a long time. (We keep WikiProjects in userspace on this wiki.) Just be aware that WikiProjects are unofficial on this Wikipedia. Some of the differences here are:
:*WikiProjects are maintained in userspace (as mentioned above).
:*We do not use categories for individual WikiProjects. There is [[:Category:WikiProjects]] for the project pages and [[:Category:WikiProject user templates]] for WikiProject user templates.
:*We do not use categories for WikiProject participants. Participants can be listed on individual project pages.
:*We do not use WikiProject banners on article talk pages.
:Feel free to ask if you have any questions. --[[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|talk]]) 23:50, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
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