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If you're undoing the removal of unsourced material, the WP:BURDEN to provide citations with reliable sources is directly on you. The Dissident Aggressor 22:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
"The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.[1]
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Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be replaced without an inline citation to a reliable source. Whether and how quickly this should happen depends on the material and the overall state of the article."
— source: WP:BURDEN
The Dissident Aggressor 23:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
DissidentAggressor is right in what he/she says about policy relating to removal of unsourced content, but arguably not right in his/her aggressive application of that policy, while ignoring the context among other policies. I have written a longer response at User talk:DissidentAggressor, and rather than repeat the same things, I refer you to my message there. For the record, however, I will mention here that that message includes a notification to both of you that you need to be aware of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 08:48, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
I have removed your transposed comments on Talk:Italo-Dalmatian languages as they are not in line with Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Do not misrepresent other people: The record should accurately show significant exchanges that took place, and in the right context. This usually means:
You made it look that JamesBWatson posted that block of text in response to my comments on Talk:Italo-Dalmatian languages. In addition you added emphasis that was not there. That is completely misleading and inappropriate.
Beyond that, I would encourage you to cease with your ad-hominem attacks. I get you don't like me. If you don't like working with others here, find something else to do, but your continued ad-homenem attacks may find you blocked from editing.
The Dissident Aggressor 12:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/?lang=en&title=Talk:Italo-Dalmatian_languages&oldid=627455014
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I support the deletions that JorisvS has made. This whole article is a mess. Kudos to JorisvS for attempting to improve it. The Dissident Aggressor 17:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- User:DissidentAggressor: Thats because you don't know any better. You have already said "I don't know crap about languages."?. --Mrjulesd (talk) 09:20, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
I believe this is fair comment. You said "I don't know crap about languages."? not me. I don't believe you have any knowledge of languages. You've said it, and all your actions suggest it. If this is true your comments are irrelevant, especially as you give no reasons why you think what you do.
Also I would like to explain the following: https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/?lang=en&title=User_talk:JamesBWatson&oldid=627229647
[[User:DissidentAggressor|The Dissident Aggressor]] On more than one page where you removed content because it was not sourced, I found that less than a minute on Google produced far more than enough sources. Yes, I know that by policy the burden is not on you to find sources, but while it would be unreasonable to expect you to do extensive searching through academic texts not readily available, it is not unreasonable to suggest that nobody should ever remove content merely because it is unsourced when a minute's work would enable anyone at all to find sources. Bear in mind that the ultimate objective is to improve the encyclopaedia, not to follow some set of rules, and it does not improve the encyclopaedia to remove good content, just because nobody has added a reference which can easily be added. I also saw cases where you removed a sentence which was tagged for sources, but left intact other sentences in the same article which included the same claims, sometimes without references, but sometimes with references, which served perfectly well as sources which you removed. It looks rather as though your only criterion was "someone tagged this statement for sources a while ago", rather than "someone tagged this statement for sources a while ago and I have made a careful assessment, and concluded that it is indeed true that there is no reference in the article for this statement, that it is not easy to find any, and that the content is sufficiently dubious that it is, on the whole, better to leave it out of the article". It may be helpful to reconsider your approach to dealing with "citation needed" tags. The editor who uses the pseudonym "User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
--Mrjulesd (talk) 22:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
I have revert a few of your edits with some of the help pages (see here) I think its best we dont send our new (lost) editors on a wild goose chase to many pages that have the same links. I like what you did at Help:Getting started ...but so you know... I tried to add all thoses links before and there was a talk about how the page should be as simple as possible...but again I like what you did and I hope its stays. At Template:Help navigation I restored the top header ..again it was simply overwhelming for someone looking for help. Would love to see you over at Wikipedia:Help Project ...see what other ideas you have. I recently wrote Help:Help that explains the problem here with the help pages. -- Moxy (talk) 00:50, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
I have reverted your change, because I do not think it is an improvement. It's true that WP:Don't cite WP42 at AfD lists some other occasions when it advises not citing WP:42, but "or at other times" implies it should never be cited, and if you make that more accurate we would end up duplicating most of WP:NOT42 here. WP:42 should be kept simple; it's enough to link to WP:NOT42. If you disagree, please propose the change on the talk page for discussion. JohnCD (talk) 10:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
? --Mrjulesd (talk) 10:38, 26 November 2014 (UTC)