Talk:Ottawa Senators
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From 1883 to 1954, the Ottawa Hockey Club existed in Ottawa. In 1992, a new team started play. The connection between the two is marketing, based on the popularity of the Ottawa hockey history. It is something to be proud of, the original team, the traditions of providing many great players. So, it is important to keep the Senators name, the original sweaters, and on and on. It is a genuine reverence, and the Senators have that. They are definitely connected, but no-one from the original team participated and were involved in the business and legal process. Part of the marketing, yes. And the original developers saw an angle to leverage that reverence to back their development. Ottawa is a solid hockey town. One of the originals to so many things. Organized hockey. Organized league. Organized pro hockey. NHA. NHL. Original Senators were in team guides for the current team. It was partly to claim legitimacy when the current club's management was disastrous. Today, the current Senators continue to honour that tradition, but the teams are different entities.
Anyway, so mentioning the connection in marketing is valid, but not in statistics, years of operation, number of Cups, etc. Alaney2k (talk) 20:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If there are anon IPs who just cannot bring themselves to see fact over fantasy, perhaps the article can be semi-protected until they go away. Ravenswing 21:53, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]The NHL's own Media Guides date the franchise solely from 1992 - in year to year record, in club records, in coaching, captains' and GMs' histories, in head-to-head all-time records, in Stanley Cup wins. To quote from page 93 of the 2005 Guide, "Franchise date: December 16, 1991 - 13th NHL Season" In no way, shape or form does the NHL treat them as the same franchise, and the league's made its POV clear, whatever some scrap of metal and wood in a storage box in back of the team offices might read. I read the Senators' official site, and among other things, I glanced at their career leaders board. Not one original Senator is mentioned. Yet if it was just one franchise, Cy Denneny would be the Sens' career goals leader with 245, and Frank Nighbor, George Boucher and Hec Kilrea would make the leader board. Denneny (5th) and Nighbor (9th) should be in the career points leaders. Boucher would be second in penalty minutes with 604, King Clancy 4th, Alex Smith 5th. Hall of Famer Alec Connell should be the career leader in goaltending games, wins and shutouts, categories in which Hall of Famer Clint Benedict should be listed 5th, 3rd and 3rd respectively. If the current Sens' ownership doesn't even believe they're really one franchise, I see no reason for Wikipedia to reflect it.
At this point, I suspect the IP to be a signed-out block evading editor. GoodDay (talk) 10:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]