Talk:Kevin Federline/Archive 1
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Placed on top because this has become the Number One issue afflicting this page. OK, can we be neutral or not here? This article is clearly becoming the I Hate Kevin page coz he's a cunt and we know it. Why do people keep calling Federline the ex husband of Spears? Their divorce is clearly final. Why do we need three paragraphs of quoted poor reviews when we all know he's a cunt? It suffices to say that he has received a swift kick in the nuts by critics coz he's a cunt. The sex tape issue is vandalism but boy i'd luv to see britney gettin' screwed even by that cunt. Someone keeps trying to add it. Both Spears and Federline deny it exists, deny they are trying to sell "it", etc., and therefore its a dead issue other then "major news outlets" repeating the lies as he is a cunt. I cant think of any other celebrity whose page is so often vandalized other than this federline cunt!!!! Michaelh2001 08:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
YOU KNOW YOU EDITORS ARE RUINING WIKIPEDIA I LOOK AT ARTICLES NOW AND HALF THE INFORMATION IS GONE BECAUSE SOMEBODY COMPLAINED OR SOMETHING LEAVE IT AS LONG AS IT'S TRUE... HE CAN HAVE A PUBLICIST ADD POSITIVE THINGS ALSO I MEAN WE AREN'T EVEN GETTING INFORMATION ANYMORE BECAUSE SOME ONE THINKS IT'S UNFAIR HIS ALBUM WAS UNIVERSALLY TRASHED BY MUSIC CRITICS THE WAY THE ARTICLES READS IT'S LIKE YEA SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT SOME PEOPLE DON'T WHEN IN REALITY IT'S LIKE 99% OF PEOPLE THINK ITS TRASH AND A FEW people LIKE IT I MEAN YOU GUYS NEED SOME COMPETITION OR SOMETHING LIKE FOX NEWS BECAUSE THIS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS FOGGING THE TRUTH IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS SOMEONE READING THIS ARTICLE MAY ACTUALLY BELIEVE FED EX IS CAPABLE OF WINNING A GRAMMY WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GONNA DO NEXT WRITE OSAMA BIN LADEN IS A NICE GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I give you a D- for your grammar. You also shouldn't use Caps Lock, it makes me feel like you are yelling at me. Caps Lock is not cruise control for awesome.
I meant that in some cases the facts condemn people. When being a resource for reliable information, the last thing you should worry about is someone's feelings! 22 December 2006
I give the both of you an "F" because neither one of you signed your name. Now look, it's an encylopedia to provide information to those who want it, not to bash somebody. If you make a comment, please make it a suggeston or something.Cobra wwe 04:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Stop all of the Controversy on this article, and obey the Vandalelism LawsMeaning-- Say somthing nice about, we are not a K-Fed Haters Club! Get it Together!!!!-wwe_stacykeibler_fan
Can we add Fed-Ex to the list now?
I don't think so, considering it's a nickname that isn't widely used like K-Fed.
How about "white trash," or "loser?" or are those considered more definition terms?
== bias? ==basWhether he is/isn't a celebrity or does/doesn't suck at rapping is perhaps debatable, butdoes anyone else think the page more than hints at a bias toward being negative?I personally hate rap, and only navigated to this page because I read the CNN article aboutthe divorce. The article (here, not CNN) mentions his rap being about "weed, fighting, etc."Isn't all popular rap pretty much drugs, sex, and violence? AnarchyElmo 03:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Federline IS a celebrity. Being a celebrity has to do with public interest and knowledge. It has nothing to do with being an actor, singer, etc. It's ridiculous to say Federline is not a celebrity because you feel he hasn't earned it because celebrity is not something that is earned, it's something a person just has.
While there should be no bias in the reporting of Federline, it is good to have sources. On Kevin Federline's page it states that he has been compared to Eminem. There is no source. I think that everything should have a source unless it is a rumor and is prefaced with the fact that it is a rumor. I don't know and haven't heard anyone actually compare Kevin Federline's ability to rap with Eminem's. I'm not Eminem's biggest fan but I do respect him as an artist and do not think that someone who likes Kevin Federline should be able to write that he has been compared to Eminem without it having a reference.
I disagree with last person, because "the quality of being a celebrity" has nothing to do with it, because if this was true; paris hilton is not a celebrity? nicole hilton is not a celebrity? nicole richie is not a celebrity? a porn star is not a celebrity? a known person and a celebrity are two different breeds i agree, the distinction is; a known person is just that, one known to the general public for (X) reason. but a celebrity, is one who after becoming this-sed known person; out of there own will try to stay in the lime-light so to speak. mr. federline became a known person because of his wife. that is true, but he stays in the limelight because of the music he makes available (either good or bad, is still however perpetuating a career) and shows he puts on (the mtv awards 2006, he did the closing act), and his openness to the press that his demeanor infront of the latter, resembles a person releasing a CD album each interview and trying to perpetuate his personal sed-career. the conclusion is personaly good or bad, he is definately a celebrately and it could be argued because of the high placement in the echelon of celebrity status that his wife has. it might be argued he is a major celebrity, because of people concious of him because of X or Y reason. however it doesnt have to mean though he is liked or admired.
K-Fed sucks so bad!!! He thinks he's all gangsta, but he's not. He's gonna get shot by real gangstas one day!!! He is such a wigger... he's not a real celebrity, the only reason he's famous is because he married Britney Spears!!!!!! K-Fed has no talent.
It doesn't appear to be accurate. I don't think "K-Fed" is a real celebrity. I don't like this page.
I argue Federline is NOT an "American Celebrity", but married to one. This would be like LeAnn Rimes husband, Dean Sheremet, being chalked up to celeb status because she is. He meet her in the same fashon as Federline meet Spears, being a backup dancer for the star, but is NOT recognized in same light as she. Further, being posted in tabloids and gossip magazines constantly, to draw attention to their odd lifestyle, does not afford this status either IMHO. Hackajar 16:07, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Celebrity means a Widely known person according to Dictionary.com. It has NOTHING to do with why the person is widely known. This notion that you have to be an actor or a singer to be a celebrity is so out of date it's not even funny. Paris Hilton and Federline are both celebrities because the public is aware of them and is interested in them. That's what celebrity means. Plain and simple.
Yeah but face it, he wouldn't be an artist no album selling no WWE appearance if he wasn't married to Britney Spears when he was her back-up dancer, ill refer to him as a celeb, but who leached off of Britney Spears From:RIPped
Kevin Federline if he became divorcecd from Britney Spears would never ever be watched by the public again. The music he makes is of such a terrible nature that it would be totally ignored by the pulbic and the hip hop community if he was a unknown and eventhough it does mean so think about it. And the idea that a person can become famous has been around since forever people have been famous for doing nothing for huge amounts of time. The only difference is that we encourage it as a generation.
If you want to see if he's a celebitry take him away from britney for a month and see if the magazines care about him.
For now Federline is a celebrity, in that he is capable of making the news without the direct assistance of Spears. What constitutes a celebrity is transitory. With the passage of time, Federline may not pass the "Google" test, at which time the article could be nominated for deletion.
The bottom line is that if Wikipedia had started in the 1950s, it would be populated with thousands of minor Hollywood personalities. Each personality would have generated hundreds of vintage Google hits due to the gossip columns. And yet none of them would survive within our collective memories with the passage of time.
jesus this guy is just a pity...The MYSPACE background design is a complete ripoff of NIRVANA's typeset (though it is a general font )along with the commonly used black and silver color scheme.- Photo by Michael Thompson- Design by CD --Alembic 10:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
You said: so obviously lacking npov. k-feds people wrote this themselves: "When Kevin boarded a Greyhound bus to L.A. in 1997 in search of a career in the entertainment industry not even he could have predicted his meteoric rise to fame and fortune. Public interest in Federline is massive. He is one of the most sought after celebrities for paparazzi and is constantly written about in the tabloids. In many ways, Federline is an icon of modern day fame, which is based on public interest in a person's privileged lifestyle." please! do they mention he is the butt of every joke in america? god, someone fix this.
--I think the comments are completely accurate. It says "public interest is massive". It doesn't say the public thinks highly of him. A simple google news search or glance at the supermarket tabloid section verifies what's written in this section (which is simply that there is great public interest in him).
"According to femalefirst.co.uk, it all began when he slipped away with little Sean Preston to get the baby's ears pierced. When Spears learned about the plan, she and several bodyguards sped off in different cars and headed 'em off at the pass. Seems Big Mama felt A) 4 months is too young to put holes in a kid's head (especially one who hasn't had all his shots); B) he'd be mistaken for a girl; and C) the poor baby would look "like trailer trash." Sean Preston - unpierced - is safe at home at the family's Los Angeles double-wide."http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/entertainment/1138700084122070.xml&coll=266.251.25.137 11:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Is this really a stub anymore? It doesn't look like there's much to be said about Kevin Federline. GoodSirJava 23:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Do not visit the kevin-federline.com link... it put a trojan horse on my computer that (thankfully) my virus scan caught.
What's with the link for the Britneyonline at the bottom? It looks like it's an edit put in for personal promotion.
I can't believe they haven't divorced yet.
It is rumoured that Federline is asking for 125 million dollars for the divorce... classy.
Should the CafePress shirt link in the article go away? Could it be considered as advertising for someone's CafePress store? --Takeel 23:19, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Apparently Kevin hates being referred to as K-Fed, and that its a media-appointed nickname. I suggest the blurb related to this should be restated.
Do you have a source for that? Because I'd love to restate it. Dwiki 06:03, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
-Dwiki 23:29, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I just added the nickname K-Fed. Feel free to remove it. But in my opinion, we should state nicknames even if the person called that nick doesn't happen to like it.
Even in WWE, they refer to him as K-fed FROM:RIPped
This is slang for "big ass", not "great ass" as originally stated in the wiki entry. It's not unlike "badunkadunk" which may imply "great ass" but really just means "big booty".
Uhhh...wow Someone should delete that rant. Obviously written by an 8 year old IMO--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 00:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Disco D grew up in the Detroit suburbs (Troy, MI). I've been to a few house parties at the University of Michigan - Ann Arbor where he was DJing (circa 2001). Maybe his parents were Brazilian (I really have no idea), but the few times I talked to him, he seemed as American as you could imagine.
Actually, disco d is american . he has come to brazil several times, has lots of friends here and hes engaged with a brazilian actress. luciana vendramini.
Hey, we all hate K-Fed, but this article is biased against him and it relies on hearsay. Here's the first 5 things I noticed. 1. Mention of his lack of diploma in opening paragraph. 2. Snide "plans to get diploma" reference. 3. Mention of Spears buying wedding ring. Evidence? 4. Pre-nup (lol k-fed's poor) 5. All of "Public Reception." I'm new to the NPOV discussion but basically I think there's a way to present these facts in a less uh, mean way. Also, rumored terms I am not okay with. -Dwiki 06:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Dare I say, the latest version is approaching NPOV. - EdwardG 13:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
It has been Stated on BET that Federline has Beef with DJ Quik...Federline Claming that he is a better Rapper than Quik and all...I swear this guy is gonna wind up getting him self killed if he keeps talking all this smack
HAH even i think Wrestler John Cena is a better rapper than he is
Is there a source on that high school dropout statment? Provided it's true, I see no reason not to include it, but I removed it from the opening paragraph since it doesn't seem to define him as a person (no jokes, please). --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 15:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
A POV (and unencyclopedically written at that) section written by an IP. I vote to delete. any seconds to that motion? --preschooler@heart my talk - contribs 06:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I am not sure why the link to the kevin federline fanclub keeps getting removed from the "External links" section. It is a valid website about Kevin Federline. Can someone explain to me why it is getting removed? If there's no reason, then stop removing it. The world needs to know about all of the Kevin Federline links on the internet.
Kevin Federline Fanclub. That's what we call in America an oxymoron.
This page of wiki has been reverted 4-5 times a day due to vandals, adding protection tag to top of page. Hackajar 10:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
This needs to be updated, as Britney gave birth to their second son together at 2 AM on Tuesday, September 12, 2006. Can you imagine the attention they would get had the child been born on September 11? It was done by c-section, so they could dictate the date of birth, and perhaps had intentionally planned it so it would NOT occur on September 11.
Does it really matter if somebody is born on September 11th? Especially if it WASN'T in 2001? Hell, I was born on the same day John Lennon was assassinated, albeit 3 years later...big freaking deal. fuzzybunny566 03:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I just found that co-Columbine shooter Dylan Klebold was oddly enough born on September 11, 1981 according to his wiki page...maybe that's what you were getting at...still it was 20 years prior...hell, Moby was born on 09-11-65...the only person I can find who fits is Chase Nixon, the son of Boston Red Sox right fielder Trot Nixon, who was born on Tuesday, September 11, 2001. If young Chase grows up to become the anti-Christ...then I will take back everything. Hehe...just don't take it all seriously. 24.63.183.233 04:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Wait, so the midget thing WASN'T true? Damn, and I thought I had just won a $5 bet. 24.63.183.233 04:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
when the page is open again for editing. Thanks--Lence 02:27, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it a little strange to have the divorce statement in the introduction even before mentioninghe was married to Britney Spears? I think it would make more sense to place the divorce statement in the personal life section. 24.6.22.213 22:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The subject's learning of his divorce via text message is conjecture. I've seen the video the person who wrote this is referring to, and while that may be have been the case, there is no way to know this really happened. It can be added later if it is verified, but since it was just yesterday it's way too soon to post as fact. --Jhlynes 20:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I love the fact there's a picture of him getting the message, although a bit insensitive...--Fluffy Kitten 20:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Britney recently filed for divorce from Kevin.
I don't think that he is "perhaps" most famous for being married to Britney Spears, as he has done little else to warrant fame, besides getting a divorce from her. I propose that that word be deleted.
If K-Fed weren't married to Britney there would not even be a Wikipedia article about him.
5000 CDs first week. He is 1/2000 Plat.
K-Fed is a wigger/poser. He has no talent. He sucks ass!!!!!!!!!! K-FED SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, this is an encyclopedia. That means it should be used to provide information, not to bash someone. If your going to bash somebody, make a damn bashing site. Cobra wwe 04:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree. with the original poster
I think it is funny, Britney created this modern day FrankenPunk, and I hope he get millions of her dollars from her. All this from a chump ass tour dancer, WOW!
I added the reference to K-Fed tickets being released for free at the NorVa. The fact that I added it was easily verifiable in the history. But since nobody contacted me to verify the information (which I could've done by giving a PDF of the front page of the publication as well as through the publication's MySpace page), it got removed. Over 300 people came to the show, only 40 paying and the rest from free tickets. Whatever the case may be, if something needs verification, it's considered courtesy to contact the person responsible for adding the information before removing it, as they may not be constantly watching the page. - Stick Fig 00:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,11049-2006540295,00.html
The information regarding the sex tape has been removed repeatedly, once labeled as vandalism. I don't think it is. The existence of the tape has been called gossip and inuendo which it may be. But in my opinion it seems completely relevant to the article, (it fits within the image Federline has tried to promote). It was a major news story covered by major news outlets. The divorce itself has been front page news around the world. The tape may or may not exist but, according to a California judge, Britney's Spears' sex life has been put in the public eye. (unreliable source - do not use) www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_21248327.shtml Britney Spears' Libel Lawsuit Dismissed Like it or not, this story cannot be dismissed as mere gossip or inuendo yet.--Cdogsimmons 03:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, everything that was on the page (until you removed it for the second time EdwardG) was completely factual. Those allegation were reported by serious media outlets, not tabloids. I seriously question your objectivity and I'm bringing in mediation. This is turning into an edit war. The story is newsworthy despite your own personal views and people should be able to get an informed opinion about it from wikipedia. Unless you come up with a better reason, like the allegations are proved false or you can show me a specific wikipedia policy against it, I will continue to include the information that has been covered in the news in the article. --Cdogsimmons 03:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/22/federline.spears.ap/index.html
Here's some the summation paragraph:
"There is not a sex video of Kevin and Britney in existence. It goes without saying that the stories of Kevin attempting to sell such a video are patently false and anyone who reports that they have information of such attempts is either lying or reporting the lie of someone else," he said.
So it looks like efforts to remove the "sex tape" stuff were ultimately in good judgement. I don't really care - if I had seen it shown on Wikipedia, I wouldn't have freaked out or anything. It has been widely reported, but I doubt by a whole lot of reputable sources outside of gossip columns for major media outlets. However, even if the gossip column is attached to, say, MSN or even CNN, it's still a gossip column and therefore not an appropriate source for biographical information.
Kudos to Wikipedia for not rising to the bait!NinaEliza 17:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Could somebody with sufficient credentials improve the formatting in the Career > Musician section? Specifically, put all the various quotations into blockquotes. I would do it myself but I'm not able to.
Apologies if this isn't the right forum for this request.
When he faces John Cena will it be for the title or not, the article doesn't state Gamehead 01:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Gamehead
Before I shortened it, (which EdwardG keeps whining about) this section had 1 good review overall versus 7 bad over all. I strongly question the objectivity and fairness of anyone who thinks that 1/7 is NPOV. Anyone who writes in this way is violating Wikipedia's standards on NPOV. Even now it is 1/4, which is fair because Federline's reviews have been mostly negative. But we dont need to "pile it on" and then accuse others of not being objective! Michaelh2001 17:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
At the moment, I'm failing this. It's still too current event-y and isn't very stable, which is a basic need for a good article. Come back when things settle down. --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I fully protected the article. Even with being semi'd, it's getting hit several times a day. Let's keep it full protected for 4-5 days and see if it helps. --Woohookitty(meow) 02:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
YOU KNOW YOU EDITORS ARE RUINING WIKIPEDIA I LOOK AT ARTICLES NOW AND HALF THE INFORMATION IS GONE BECAUSE SOMEBODY COMPLAINED OR SOMETHING LEAVE IT AS LONG AS IT'S TRUE... HE CAN HAVE A PUBLICIST ADD POSITIVE THINGS ALSO I MEAN WE AREN'T EVEN GETTING INFORMATION ANYMORE BECAUSE SOME ONE THINKS IT'S UNFAIR HIS ALBUM WAS UNIVERSALLY TRASHED BY MUSIC CRITICS THE WAY THE ARTICLES READS IT'S LIKE YEA SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT SOME PEOPLE DON'T WHEN IN REALITY IT'S LIKE 99% OF PEOPLE THINK ITS TRASH AND A FEW people LIKE IT I MEAN YOU GUYS NEED SOME COMPETITION OR SOMETHING LIKE FOX NEWS BECAUSE THIS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS FOGGING THE TRUTH IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS SOMEONE READING THIS ARTICLE MAY ACTUALLY BELIEVE FED EX IS CAPABLE OF WINNING A GRAMMY WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GONNA DO NEXT WRITE OSAMA BIN LADEN IS A NICE GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We should add, "it was not a commericial success". Given that it only shifted around 8,000 copies (possibly an all-time low for an album to debut in the Billboard 200), I don't think this will be particularly controversial. 24.238.170.154 18:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Should someone edit the article to include the fact that K-Fed just beat Cena on RAW? Or would that be considered a spoiler? Pyroflame 02:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Period. I don't know why we should waste our time on debating his page, only important/major people should deserve a Wikipedia article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.155.65.245 (talk) 03:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC).
has federline signed a contract with raw?
Federline has not signed a contract with Raw. --Crazy4metallica 08:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
In the "backup dancer" section of his Career section the author uses the phrase "future ex-wife". I had to read that three times before I understood it. Maybe I'm tired or something, but can anyone think of a better rephrase for that? I can't, but "future ex-wife" doesn't make sense to me some how.--Goyston (talk) (contribs) 07:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
What are the rules/precedents for deleting stuff from a talk page? I am tempted to delete, or at the very least archive, a lot of the stuff on this page, as people have been treating it as a message board for quite a while now. -Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 00:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
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