Talk:Carl Johan Bernadotte
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Is he still Duke of Dalecarlia? john k 05:48, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
All (recent) Swedish princes who marry unequally, it seems, have the title Count Bernadotte of Visborg. Why does the article say the grand duchess of Luxemburg gave him that title?! —Tamfang 05:30, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the answer is in here. —Tamfang 05:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC) Count bernadotte of visborg he is the great grand son of Queen Victoria. His grandfather was Prince Arthur of Connaught, Prince Arthur of connaught is the son of queen victoria. Hence Count Bernadotte of Visborg is the Great grandson of Queen Victoria[reply]
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I 'googled' my name and find myself in the midst of Swedish Nobility....That feels good.Sincerely yours,Johan van Sweden —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.161.92.69 (talk) 10:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that the first name (of address) of the Count's second wife is spelled Gunnila (not Gunilla) which is quite unusual. SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the move request was: page moved. SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Count Carl Johan Bernadotte of Wisborg → Carl Johan Bernadotte — Using title is superfluous here. And he himself gives his name only as Carl Johan Bernadotte.[1] No reason to use another name format for this article than for his brother Sigvard Bernadotte or nephew 1st cousin Lennart Bernadotte who bore the exact same tiles for the exact same reasons. The use of of Wisborg (actually af Wisborg) has only been in very formal context. SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't know how to get this out of that move section. SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:20, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How relevant are all those details about his adopted sons, and particularly their in-laws and children? Name-dropping? SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the move request was: Moved per uncontested request below, that is supported by a complete discussion over at Marianne Bernadotte which also resulted in a move. (non-admin closure) Tiggerjay (talk) 07:56, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Count Carl Johan Bernadotte of Wisborg → Carl Johan Bernadotte – See recent moves for Sigvard Bernadotte and Marianne Bernadotte! Titles are identical. There is no such legitimate name as "Bernadotte of Wisborg". SergeWoodzing (talk) 23:18, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Recent changes have corrupted a source in that it now looks like a Luxembourg Government gazette of 1951 is a source for a marriage 37 years later. I am going to try to correct that and reinstate what the source (that gazette) was for. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 00:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Swedish editors want "friend with" in this article, which I think is a bit slangy or a bit Swenglish. I'd prefer "friend of" which I think is more normal English. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:16, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
>and in that conferral was also called Carl Johan Arthur Prince Bernadotte.[5] Counts of Wisborg are considered to be part of a non-official Swedish unintroduced nobility.[4]
I don't get this. Was he only called prince and then decided he had been conferred the title with arms? How does anyone who is just called prince gain princely arms? Did he appropriate the title?
Also "non-official" what does that even say. The link goes to talk about unintroduced mobility and some club which is a subset of that. Why call them non official when they they hold foreign titles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.234.37.240 (talk) 08:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if this information about Carl Johan's grandson (edit: son, sorry, silly mistake) would be useful or not:https://my.clevelandclinic.org/patient-stories/252-businessman-celebrates-new-heart-with-the-cardiologistshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-bernadotte-85832236Even if the heart attack itself isn't, perhaps his occupation and current location is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2angelgoats (talk • contribs) 10:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
i do not think that married morganatically, that is not possibly neither in Sweden nor in USA. The problem was that they married equally and thus he had to leave his position as prince, duke and heir. When marrying morganatically the person with high social status keep all their titles and rights but do not transfer them to the partner or the children. The reason why the children was without right to inherit his later Luxembourgian title count af wisborg was due to the fact that they were adopted and had no relation by blood to him. His wifes held the title of countess af wisborg transferred by marriage signalling the marriages were not morganatic indeed. 83.254.98.237 (talk) 06:19, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]