Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanians in Serbia (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 01:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Albanians in Serbia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

First, I apologize for the complexity of this report. This is the second time I am bringing this article to AFD. It was created by copy-paste merging Albanians in Kosovo and Albanians in Central Serbia. The consensus of the previous AFD was that since Kosovo was a part of Serbia, the two articles should be merged until this was no longer the case. Now that Kosovo has declared independence, I think the articles should be split again. Recommend Deleting this article, and reverting to the previous edits on Albanians in Kosovo and Albanians in Central Serbia. I would also support Renaming Albanians in Central Serbia to Albanians in Serbia. // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 20:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I see no reason to delete this article. Nikola (talk) 21:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep::I agree, deletion does not seem justified. It does need to be updated regularly to keep it current, just like the other Kosovo-related articles, as contentious as those updates may be.

--Wikiscient (talk) 21:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep::: I agree, I am sure lot's of people would like to delete not only this article but many more. Albanians living in KOSOVO have to accept the fact that KOSOVO is still part of Serbia. This can only be changed by United Nations and I am sure we all know that. So, till now please restrain your self from adding inappropriate content.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.203.17.185 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 17 February 2008
  • That's not true. The United Nations is not the authority on statehood. Tuf-Kat (talk) 00:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Article should stay as it is. Declaration of independance does not change the offcial status yet. Neozoon —Preceding comment was added at 23:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - There are still albanians in serbia (out of kosovo) , so instead of deleting this article I would suggest an update , where kosovo wont be mentioned but the article would be about albanians living in presevo , bujanovac etc. --Cradel 23:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Unless I'm misunderstanding something, the one that should be deleted is Albanians in Central Serbia (or that should be redirected here). Tuf-Kat (talk) 00:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Perhaps I'm not being clear. I don't want this article entirely deleted. I think the information on Kosovo should be split out into its own article. In fact it already is, but Albanians in Kosovo redirects to here. Also, I agree that Albanians in Central Serbia should either redirect or be outright moved to this page. // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 01:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• KeepBiophys (talk) 04:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep You Dchall realy seem to be a troll or POV creator. Kosovo-Metohia is Serbia, both officialy both defacto both de jure, if you have something against that go express your feelings somewhere else THIS IS WIKIPEDIA! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.200.202.112 (talk) 13:42, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - POV of any other person notwithstanding, this is a perfectly good article. It just needs trimming and updating, which are not subject to AfD. Bearian (talk) 20:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• I support nom, but that should not be an AFD. The status of Kosovo, since its declaration of independence and recognition by various countries is difficult. However, it is clearly a disticnt polity, having been a UN protectirate since 1999. Its status is analogous to Taiwan and Somaliland, which are de facto independent, but not recognised by certain others. The proposal seems to be to resplit, and I think that should be done. This is inevitably a controversial move. Albanians in Central Serbia should become a redirect to this page. My guess is that the new state will fail to control its three most northern divisions, with their Serb majority, but despite Serbian protests, the rest will sustain its independence. However, perhaps we should await developments. Peterkingiron (talk) 00:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.