Could you tell me whether the chord progression of this remains E–A–B throughout the chorus and middle eight as well? Thanks. BTW what do you think of 1D? Honestly. —Andrewstalk06:44, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I can see a change to the flat keys during the line "Don't Need makeup to cover...". You can say that the tone shifts one key down I guess. I honestly have listened to two songs by 1D, they are cool I guess. — Legolas(talk2me)07:27, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Noting that you helped bring Madonna (entertainer) to FA, do you think you could give me some feedback? I'm working on the article for Chrisye (and it is now quite possibly our most developed article on an Indonesian singer, although Anggun comes close) and I want to bring it to FA class after it passes the current GA nomination. The biography I have has testimonials from numerous famous people, including former President Megawati Sukarnoputri. Now, to cite this should I do:
Sukarnoputri, Megawati (2007). "Dia Penyanyi yang Seniman". In Endah, Alberthiene (ed.). Chrisye: Sebuah Memoar Musikal (in Indonesian). Jakarta: Gramedia Pustaka Utama. p. 339. ISBN978-979-22-2606-5. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |trans_chapter= ignored (|trans-chapter= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)
If you are using only this book, then you can go with the first option. However, if there are multiple books like the Madonna bio article, then go with the second option for the book-lists and {{harvnb}} template for the references. — Legolas(talk2me)05:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, the only one with writings from Megawati Soekarnoputri, Erwin Gutawa, Jockie Soerjoprajogo, et al. is the Musical Memoir book. A lot of my other references are newspaper articles. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey Lego. How are you? I need a little favor from you. I am working on List of Rihanna concert tours and I am basing in on the model from the Madonna ones that you created. Can you check the lead, c/e, and tell me what you think about it. It's still not finished, but the first paragraph is done. Thanks — Tomica1111 • Question Existing?15:04, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
You have done such a great job with Madonna-related articles. I just read W.E, and was blown away. Think some of that talent can rub off on me? Haha, kidding. Keep up the great work. :D —DAP388 (talk) 00:44, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
What needs discussion exactly? The chart is compiled by the official Airplay monitoring service in Greece, Media Inspector. [www.mediainspector.gr] Their full charts are not publicly accessible. The site that posted the Year-end chart is reliable. (e-tetradio) It is a sister site of Billboard Greece, developed by the same company (Radio Times LLC), in fact they share the same chief editor. (Dimitris Kanellopoulos) Greekboy (talk) 18:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey, while I do understand that you've deleted the content on the Oath of Vayuputras by Amish in good faith, the book is already announced as a part of the trilogy so it hardly makes it an uncertain event in the future. It is not promotional in nature and was merely quoting the available references from the internet. Eventually, the article will come in place because the author has already announced the title as well as the fact that he is working on it. I don't want to start an edit war here but I really do think that the DAB is kinda misleading and should in fact be replaced with a stub for the same. Noopur28 (talk) 17:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
WP:CRYSTAL doesnot necessary mean that the name of the book, etc is all tied in together as a definitive release. Things can change drastically and ultimately might be a different name, concept etc. As you can see with the second book, things ultimately changed. Since we can either avoid creating stubs, that's what we should do. Also Noopur (I guess you're Indian as me), thanks for the wonderful sources that you're providing. But let's just wait for a few months for this one. Let Amish talk about the book and some info come up rather than just a stub. — Legolas(talk2me)03:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I was already slayed with the album title. I was then buried yesterday, the maggots ate my flesh, I went to hell and fought with SatanGa, and now I'm reborn again. Behold! — Legolas(talk2me)02:59, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
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I have cleaned up and organized all the references so that they are clean consistent from double periods to brackets and wikilinking. The only outstanding citation is FN 94, Keyboard Magazine. Could you get a hold of the page number and ISSN? And on a slightly different note, how's the copy editing coming along? —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]15:41, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh, now I understand. I how you know the latest rumors prevailing? Beyonce is moving there pretty soon as Columbia Records is using all the payola for Adele. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:41, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Already read all of that. You know, more than being dissatisfied, this is pure business for her. Otherwise she wouldn't have waited so long to comment on this shit. Let's face it, some parts of BTW does sound like EY. — Legolas(talk2me)03:38, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
It's the first thing I had noticed when I first heard "Born This Way" actually. I think she should just let her music speak for itself and ignore questions like these. —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]03:42, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
She can, but she won't. Controversy's first child is Madonna. The "Look it up" and then sipping tea comment is already going down in history as one of the shadiest moments of pop music. — Legolas(talk2me)03:49, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
You know what? Both of them are smart enough to bask in the glory of this comment. This is more press than what Gaga's been getting in the New Year (most of them have been about MTN flopping). This is certainly making people notice M.D.N.A. and Madonna knows certainly what "reductive" means, and it surely isn't the one being thrown around. She already explained in the interview what reductive is, people need to pay attention. Smart. — Legolas(talk2me)04:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
She did applaud Gaga as "a very talented artist" and "flattering". She's creating a lot of promotional drama for her album though, and I think that's what she wants. It works. —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]04:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Its working bothways. "Born This Way" jumped from 151 to 92 on iTunes. "Express Yourself" jumped from "nothing" to 322. Like a Prayer moved to 97 on iTunes also. Madonna appreciates Gaga. I know her very well and if she didn't think Gaga talented, she would have never commented. Like the same way she has never commented about Mariah coz she thinks she's too manufactured in her initial days. — Legolas(talk2me)04:17, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I respect both artists, and I didn't feel it made sense that Madonna would do to Gaga what she did to Gwen Stefani. She's just mysterious and it's hard to make out what she tries to mean. —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]04:23, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
There is a meaning always and for god's sake I'm happy that there are dual meanings, instead of the crap she has given us for the last five years like Hard Candy and "Celebration". There are more hidden meanings now, MDNA, "Masterpiece", "Trust" ---> the lyrical brilliance is back again. — Legolas(talk2me)04:31, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I didn't think a sudden urge to save the world in four minutes was too brilliant either. "Masterpiece" is true to its name, a masterpiece. —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]04:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
The pathetic most was "Revolver" I think...My love's a revolver, my sex is a killer, do you want to die happy? I mean, like WTF? The only brilliant line she has done in the last five years is from "REvolver" though: Mirror, mirror on the wall, Who's the baddest of them all? PS: I hope "Masterpiece" wins tomorrow. — Legolas(talk2me)04:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Avi. Do you know an alternative for "dips in and out"? See the second paragraph here. I have talked to my copy-editors. They told me that it is good but Efe is calling it informal, which my dictionary opposes. But still, I think I will replace it to avoid the drama. Reference. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:23, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I could sense you were going to to leave me a message. Avi, as I have always told... no matter how much praise I receive, it is always incomplete without your compliment as yours matters the most to me. Thank you Avi. Thank you wholeheartedly. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Gaga's BF
See this - does there really need to be a Personal Life section ~ when there is only one thing mentioned in it? It's very small compared to other sections in the article. -- MST☆R(Chat Me!)03:55, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
No way, there's not even any confirmation from either parties and in music articles we donot dedicate personal life sections and it is merged as part of the article. — Legolas(talk2me)05:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Template:Did you know nominations/Masterpiece (Madonna song)
Hi. That's the name of the article on which I have began to work for my next FAC. Can you please tell me if this line: The musical accompaniment has a spare, cinematic quality that she fills with an expansive voice that occasionally reaches past the singer’s grasp. is actually about "If I Were a Boy" or not? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:26, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, it is actually describing the overall feel of the song. The reviewer feels that IIWAB evokes a cinematic narrative, with its broad range and composition, however, at places, Knowles' voice falters and fails to achieve the range required for such a composition to come to fruition. — Legolas(talk2me)12:53, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Avi. Can the first part be used as a music sample rationale? Actually, I am not sure the actual music sample caption is good. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:57, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Nahh, personally I don't think the sample will ever justify the cinematic quality of the song, since, well it is low-quality per WP:SAMPLE. Try a different, but regular approach of tying it in with the composition, like where Knowles' voice breaks "I think I could understand..." to illustrate that with the sample. — Legolas(talk2me)13:09, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
I've deleted the page as a bad faith creation. If you can link to some evidence of socking, I'll block, but it may be better to contact someone better acquainted with the situation- an original blocker, someone involved in the ban discussion, a checkuser or something. J Milburn (talk) 12:30, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Legooo! I gotta question for ya! So I heard that the reason that Marry The Night was flopping is cause Gaga's managment isn't promoting it due to the fact that she's coming out with an EP mid 2012. I don't know if it's true or not, but shes been talking about releasing a new album, plus her new Princess Diana song and Elton John duet. So do you think it's true, or just pure hope?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Nope, MTN flopped coz it didn't click with the public. Lets face it, the song is just too random and too structure-less to sound like a proper song. Plus that bullshit video didn't really help. — Legolas(talk2me)02:33, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
FML I totally agree.. I actually wished that song would bring her back on the charts. Do you think her label will let her release another single or is this the end of the BTW era and time to move on to the next?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 04:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
So much for "Heavy Metal Lover", "Americano", "Bloody Mary", and "Government Hooker" LOL! But in all honesty they really woulda flopped. I think "Hair" would do good, but really I just hope she goes back to TFM era, it was a good mix ya know?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 04:12, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
A progressive artist like her will never go back to the same sound. But I do agree that she needs to cut down on the OTT bullshit and be a little more simple. The crazy antics do put off people nowadays. — Legolas(talk2me)04:40, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I think it'd be really great to see her go in a more electro-rock oriented direction, kind of like how Coldplay switched up their sound, or go to a classy sort of modern jazz. Personally what would make me happiest would be to see her do an album full of "Dance In The Dark"'s and "Edge of Glory"'s, she has such a beautiful voice for those kinds of songs, not full of autotune crap--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 04:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Actually she needs the commercial backing again. So the next release should be more commercial, then the fourth album can be experimental again. Lets face it, commercial aspect is important and Interscope won't let Gaga do anything on her own whim now. They would want a new sound commercial enough. The techno rock thing sounds heaven in Born This Way but didn't set the charts on fire. I do agree I would love songs like "Edge of Glory" on her next venture. — Legolas(talk2me)04:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Honestly you need to be on her management team LOL! I think you could bring her back to her former glory. She's famous for her antics and not her music, and even that's slipping away. So when you mean commercial sound, do you mean the light weight electro-pop of Katy, or just a watered down BTW?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 05:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
the height debate in W.E
there is no debate about the height of James D'arcy who is listed on IMDB as being 6'3". The duke of Windsor was a small man - you can see this in any number of contemporary photos including this one of him with Nixon (who was 5'11"). In the picture Nixon towers over the Duke and Mrs Simpson 1.You are clearly a big fan of Madonna as evidenced by your personal page. You appear to be refusing to allow any critical elements to appear in the write up of the film. If you can suggest a way that this fact can be entered into the description of the film I would be happy to take advantage of your greater experience of Wikipedia. However, I think it a legitimate critique of the film to point out that Madonna has cast someone who by any standards is very tall to play someone who the historic record shows was below average height. It raises the question of her pro royalist sentiments that she has deliberately chosen to use her film to show the Duke of Windsor as being physically powerful and a head taller than his wife, whereas pictures of them together in public show them to have been of similar height allowing for her somewhat higher shoes. The scene by the water's edge only serves to promote a myth of the former king having a powerful physical presence. It is shot in a very similar way to the famous beach scene with Burt Lancaster and Deborah Kerr in From here to eternity. The question of the appropriateness of casting is a legitimate issue in any description of a film on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterramsden (talk • contribs) 15:10, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Nice theory and all, kinda provide a source for it can you? You have been asked repeatedly to provide reliable source stating this and please read WP:NOR. — Legolas(talk2me)04:28, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
He was like "Well, I've been friends with Lady Gaga since before any of you knew her" and "Me and Lady Gaga this" and "Me and Lady Gaga that" and "Only Perez Hilton cameras are allowed to film this, no one else". It was his show, but he was the background part of it. Lol. Aaron • You Da One15:30, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
There won't be any work parameter since it is a self publishing source. Hence only add publisher=Rediff.com to the reference. Hope this clears your confusion. — Legolas(talk2me)13:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
When a website itself is its own name, then there won't be anything else to add. For eg: for The Times of India we won't be adding timesofindia.indiatimes.com since the name itself is The Times of India. — Legolas(talk2me)11:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. In other words, you mean that it has enough information to be taken at FAC (trial)? Some people think it does not stand a chance because of its length.Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:39, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Just checked and it needs only another 90 to 100 characters to meet the criteria. I know I had trouble getting the javascript apps to work at first, and found I needed to clear the page cache before it would load. Miyagawa(talk)13:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
hi
it wasnt a joke edit i thought i should add it because everything should be sourced but another person has already spoken with me about it and explained what would be better — Preceding unsigned comment added by HappyFridays (talk • contribs) 15:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Is it okay if I trim the synopsis section of that article? It looks worrying and wordy. Then again, the whole article could benefit from some trimming, but that's later. —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]15:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
About the {{noitalic}} template: is there any particular reason it is recommended over the regular wikimarkup? I won't mind doing it, but I don't want it to unnecessarily increase the article's bytes. And lol at the YouTube user. What a diva. Thanks, —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]15:02, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello, you can put reference to "American heavy metal band System of a Down has performed part of this song in their live shows on guitar".Flores,Alberto (talk) 02:21, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear Legolas, I left some pre-FAC comments at Talk:Like a Prayer (song). I think it is very good in terms of comprehensiveness. I do think you would find opposition at FAC based on the prose, so that would need to be addressed ahead of time. I hope my comments help. --Laser brain(talk)17:11, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Can you see/tell what is still needed in Only Happy When It Rains for it to pass? (and thanks for the review; because of it, I might fix the two previous Garbage songs that were killed in action - or even considering adding one more GA here!) igordebraga≠02:18, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I have cleaned up one of the drive-by shootings noms that preceded the article you reviewed: Vow (song). Can you take a look and tell me if it's ready for another GA nom? Thanks. igordebraga≠04:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
A litte... help
Hi there. I was wondering if you weren't too busy if you could take a look at 21's peer review. Any suggestions, big or small, would be greatly appreciated. No rush if you can't get to it right now. Hoping to take it to FAC in about a week. Thanks again. My main issue at the moment is prose and citation consistency. Orane(talk)23:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
WikiCup 2012 January newsletter
WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. Signups will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is Grapple X (submissions), due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about The X-Files; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at good article candidates. Second place is currently held by Ruby2010 (submissions), whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is Jivesh boodhun (submissions), who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!
The 64 highest scoring participants will advance to round 2 in a month's time. There, they will be split into eight random groups of eight. The score needed to reach the next round is not at all clear; last year, 8 points guaranteed a place. The year before, 20.
A few participants and their work warrant a mention for achieving "firsts" in this competition.
12george1 (submissions) was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on Hurricane Debby (1982)- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
Sp33dyphil (submissions) is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
Speciate (submissions) was the first to score points for an In the News entry, with Paedophryne amauensis. The lead image from the article was also used on the main page for a time, and it's certainly eye-catching!
Jivesh boodhun (submissions) was the first to score points for a featured article, and is, at the moment, the only competitor to claim for one. The article, "Halo" (Beyoncé Knowles song), was also worth double points because of its wide coverage. While this is an article that Jivesh and others have worked on for some time, it is undeniable that he has put considerable work into it this year, pushing it over the edge.
We are yet to see any featured lists, featured topics or good topics, but this is unsurprising; firstly, the nomination processes with each of these can take some time, and, secondly, it can take a considerable amount of time to work content to this level. In a similar vein, we have seen only one featured article. The requirement that content must have been worked on this year to be eligible means that we did not expect to see these at the start of the competition. No points have been claimed for featured portals or pictures, but these are not content types which are often claimed; the former has never made a big impact on the WikiCup, while the latter has not done so since 2009's competition.
A quick rules clarification before the regular notices: If you are concerned that another user is claiming points inappropriately, please contact a judge to take a look at the article. Competitors policing one another can create a bad atmosphere, and may lead to inconsistencies and mistakes. Rest assured that we, the judges, are making an effort to check submissions, but it is possible that we will miss something. On a loosely related note: If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed1700:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh is it? We generally take only the combined chart so you can add that only, the proxy.siteo site. I wasn't aware that the link comes from disque en france itself. Sorry for reverting your edits then. — Legolas(talk2me)12:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Third opinion
I reverted this edit merely because it is going into too much detail without sources. The editor spoke to me about the cultural significance of Beethoven and I told him that specific details like this regardlessly need sources per WP:PLOTSUM. (S)he dismissively expressed WP:IDHT. Please see the discussion. And this. I have no problem with its inclusion if it can be sourced, but right now it's simply bloated. Could you give some input. It'd be greatly appreciated. Regards, —WP:PENGUIN·[ TALK ]18:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
This should do it, is the editor high or something? And what cultural movement with a damn Beethoven sonata being included? Its like the same BS Gaga's been spreading. — Legolas(talk2me)03:09, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
She looks really hot, unlike the "4 Minutes" video where she was just plain scary. Her look reminds me that of her appearance on the 2009 VMAs, paying tribute to MJ. — Legolas(talk2me)16:07, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Jivesh, wtf is a "Magde"? OMG at the album cover, the name MDNA as well as the cover harkens back so much to her first release. Its as if a new life is breathing in her discography. Are ya'll excited for SB tomorrow? Have ya'll seen the "super gay coma inducing" stage? — Legolas(talk2me)06:44, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Lol, my FAs are snatching wigs? :P You made me remember something I saw on ATRL. A Britney Spears fan was asking why there will not be a Glastonbury 2012 (The festival will actually be back in 2013). A Beyonce fan replied: "Don't you know Beyonce performed in 2011? So many wigs have been snatched. They have to pick up each wig from the location and there are so many that it might take two years". Lol, that was really funny. LMAO I love the Beyhive of ATRL. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I just can't at the video. Still. Oh and Jivesh that "Countdown" parody was too much. I have shown it to everyone, from my wife, friends, brother, manager.. everybody. Its lije the most commented post and shared video from my FB account. — Legolas(talk2me)11:12, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
(→) I used to like it, but alas, Talk That Talk hasn't aged well at all with me. I prefer listening to Loud than this. Every song except "We Found Love" sounds dated to me. — Legolas(talk2me)11:25, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Haha, when I nominated the True Blue GT, I did not even list it in the main GTC page, and it remained stationary like that for a total of three weeks until a delegate found out. — Legolas(talk2me)13:54, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes, but do continue developing them all you can so that the reviewers who comment see that content is being written into those two, and they have a chance at being a future GA. — Legolas(talk2me)14:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Legolas, I have just read that Lady Gaga's new single is McQueen coming out soon. Can you plaese tell me if this is true (it was on Wikipedia so I assume it is) and if so, what the source is (i.e. new album, featured single, re-release??) Thank You ;) Muthamonster (talk) 02:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)