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IP editor, possible sock?
Drmies, An these IPs of of Romania have been used by an editor who has become very active on several topics where pop-culture and politics are intersecting. The IP editor seems very familiar with editing procedures and talk page processes. This makes me think this probably isn't a new user. I'm also wondering about why an editor who is in Romania would be interested in topics like the removal of Civil War statues in the south. They are very interested with Gina Carano. Some of their edits are iffy in terms of civility, in particular being very quick to accuse sources of being far/alt right which appears to be based on opinion vs presented evidence. [[1]] [[2]]. The behavior reminds me of IHateAccounts [[3]] and the 27Jan timing aligns with the block of IHA.
- [[4]] 46.97.170.19 17Feb - 12Mar
- [[5]] 46.97.170.253 30Jan - 15Feb
- [[6]] 46.97.170.112 - 19Mar - current
- [[7]] 213.233.88.151 27Jan - 2Feb
Anyway, I wanted to put this on your radar. Thanks for the efforts on in this area! Springee (talk) 15:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'm looking into it (blocked one sock account already), but tell me you didn't mark Ta-Nehisi Coates as a comic author. The Water Dancer is a fantastic book, and Between the World and Me is quite important. Anyway, I don't see the Southern statues thing in the history/interest of IhateAccounts or that Anonymous Skeptic... Drmies (talk) 16:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, I'm sorry, there is nothing there. And if you look at 46.97.170.0/24 you'll see they seem to go back to May 2020, with edits on US politics, race, gender. As for sources etc., I can't judge that, not right now anyway. Drmies (talk) 16:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Coates was the author of the issue of a Cpt America comic that appears to reference Jordan Peterson so in context, yes, a comic book author (I'm taking on faith he was the author in question). I wasn't certain about the IHA connection. The time stamps don't seem to line up that well as the IP editor seems to have, at least recently, a very narrow window. What I was actually thinking of is the rather aggressively negative way both the IP and IHA described people, things on the right that they disagreed with. This aggressiveness also applied to editors in a few cases about other editors such as this one [[8]]. Anyway, I would have trouble believing they weren't editing with some prior account. I think our only overlaps are the Peterson talk page and I noticed one comment with respect to Kyle Rittenhouse [[9]]. Regardless, I figured your sock spidey sense was more sensitive than mine. Thanks for taking a look. Springee (talk) 17:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I'm sure they are not just an IP editor, but I don't know who they might be, and I can assure you they are not socking currently--so they're OK in my book. Go read some Coates--it's good for you. Take care, Drmies (talk) 00:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Coates was the author of the issue of a Cpt America comic that appears to reference Jordan Peterson so in context, yes, a comic book author (I'm taking on faith he was the author in question). I wasn't certain about the IHA connection. The time stamps don't seem to line up that well as the IP editor seems to have, at least recently, a very narrow window. What I was actually thinking of is the rather aggressively negative way both the IP and IHA described people, things on the right that they disagreed with. This aggressiveness also applied to editors in a few cases about other editors such as this one [[8]]. Anyway, I would have trouble believing they weren't editing with some prior account. I think our only overlaps are the Peterson talk page and I noticed one comment with respect to Kyle Rittenhouse [[9]]. Regardless, I figured your sock spidey sense was more sensitive than mine. Thanks for taking a look. Springee (talk) 17:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
User:Pkeets - now that his topic ban is over
He wants us to rule that CNN is not a reliable source, because: Project Veritas says so! See Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources.
Truly, it is to laugh. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- So that topic ban needs extension? Resuming disruptive behaviour right after previous sanctions expire is clearly sign they've either not got the memo, or they were never intent on actually following the advice given to them. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Orange Mike, I think that's ridiculous enough to warrant some action. There are two options here: I single-handedly re-apply a topic ban, possibly an indefinite one, from AP territory. Or, and since I don't want to do the first one we'll do this: we take it to AE. I think it was Black Kite who said, in the last discussion, that this was really a matter for AE, so let's do that. And let's throw in this, for which "forum post" is really a euphemism, and this "discussion" at RSN: this comment, the last in the thread], by Masem indicates to which extent their original "question" was just, well, really, trolling: throw some shit on the fire and see if it explodes. I thought I was being positive with the three-month topic ban; it hasn't worked. Drmies (talk) 15:29, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- RandomCanadian, I see you've been looking at this editor's work too; I think you should consider taking it to AE. Drmies (talk) 01:19, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Doing... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:23, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well that was a first for me, but in any case,
Done RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:56, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hope you enjoyed it. And if that's not enough excitement, there's always The State of Texas vs. Melissa, which is a prime candidate for DYK. Drmies (talk) 02:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well that was a first for me, but in any case,
A Favor
Since we're dealing with sockpuppets of sockmaster Jinnifer, could we block 107.77.249.30 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), too?--Mr Fink (talk) 03:49, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Query
Hello, Drmies,
I don't work much with questionable editor usernames so I'm curious what you would think about User:SHaran (WMF). A page they made was tagged for CSD and I removed the tag considering that it was a testing page for a WMF staff member. But then looking at the user page, it doesn't seem evident that they actually work at WMF. But they aren't very active. What do you think, ask for a name change or just leave them alone? Liz Read! Talk! 02:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Liz: (talk page stalker) If the username is correct they would be S Haran here; and the meta user page seems to check this out. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:06, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you, RandomCanadian, that is what I should have done but my mind was thinking of other tasks I need to take care of. Thanks for the follow-up. God bless talk page stalkers! Liz Read! Talk! 03:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- RandomCanadian, how fortuitous that I edit-conflicted with you, because I had not found that, and I had a rather different answer ready: they're not listed at Category:Wikimedia Foundation staff, and their edits don't display a lot of experience here--see the very syntax of the name of Draft:SHaranSandbox). User:SHaran (WMF), can you please disclose any other accounts on your user page, and maybe indicate your position etc. on your user page? Thanks, and thank you Liz, Drmies (talk) 03:15, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- For the record: Accounts with the (WMF) suffix are restricted by blacklist and can only be made with the approval of the WMF. (They're also routinely globally locked when someone leaves the employ of the WMF.) If you have questions about a staff member's staff account, it should be directed to the WMF - especially if you are having doubts they're staff. And WMF staff members are allowed to have personal accounts. Perhaps a friendly note would be more useful than suspicion. Risker (talk) 04:39, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
You've got mail!
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- I hope that it is about William Simmonds, the puppetteer who needs an SPI case. In the meantime, Doktoro was saying something about socks and coats, earlier. I'm thinking probably wardrobes, or chests of drawers. But that has led me to something even scarier.
- Taylor, Lonn; Warren, David B. (1975). Texas Furniture: The Cabinetmakers and Their Work, 1840–1880. University of Texas Press. ISBN 9780292738010.
- Taylor, Lonn; Warren, David B. (2012). Texas Furniture, Volume One: The Cabinetmakers and Their Work, 1840–1880. Focus on American History. University of Texas Press. ISBN 9780292728691.
- Taylor, Lonn; Warren, David B. (2013). Texas Furniture, Volume Two: The Cabinetmakers and Their Work, 1840–1880. Focus on American History. University of Texas Press. ISBN 9780292745810.
- Dang it, Randy! Those dang Hippies in the 1970s smoked that marry-you-arner and went and wrote biographies of cabinetmakers in Texas, I tell you whut! Then they dang-well re-published it 35 years later. It surely makes those dang Canadians from Canadia look like regular folk, even though they are dang Yankees.
- Baker, Peter E. (2017). "Une Vue de Dundas — J. R. Seavey". Le Canada chez soi: L’Histoire en guise de décor. Dundurn. ISBN 9781459740358. (in Foreign, Bottom Left Up-A-Bit Canadiaian it seems)
- Cochrane, William (1891). "Julian Ruggles Seavey". The Canadian Album: Men of Canada. Vol. 3. Brandtford, Ontario: Bradley, Garretson & Company. p. 223. (in American)
- Uncle G (talk) 07:23, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Your groceries
![]() | A pastry or two |
Sorry, couldn't get the salt. Probably best, too much is bad for you (unlike pastries, of course...) Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 17:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC) |
- Oh, I appreciate it--thanks! That is very nice of you. Drmies (talk) 17:47, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Help please
Hi admin, is it possible that you could follow up on the WP:ANI#Skb7 false accusation against me? I'm pretty pissed and drained by Skb7 continously accusations against me which tarnish my image on Wikipedia. As seen in the discussion and in the linked See also, Skb7 continously acussed me for something I didn't do, I have also presented the evidence which fellow admin Black Kite agreed with the evidence, however Black Kite is currently offline hence would appreciate if you could help out with it. Thanks a lot. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:55, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Drmies: courtesy ping — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:56, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ha, I missed this, and then I ended up there anyway. So I think I can still charge my usual fee, right? And I need salt. Drmies (talk) 18:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Drmies: Oops ... anyway thanks for helping out at Black Kite talk page. I don't have salt but here is a barnstar for you.
- Ha, I missed this, and then I ended up there anyway. So I think I can still charge my usual fee, right? And I need salt. Drmies (talk) 18:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
![]() | Anti-Wikibullying Barnstar | |
Thanks for standing up to the false accusations. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 02:30, 18 April 2021 (UTC) |
Your GA nomination of Goulven of Léon
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Goulven of Léon you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Whiteguru -- Whiteguru (talk) 01:41, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Whiteguru, thanks--I appreciate it. It's part of a cluster of articles related to Breton culture. Drmies (talk) 01:49, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't feel safe on Wikipedia anymore
Good day Drmies! I am very thankful to you and Girth Summit for reconsidering the block placed on me. Very many thanks too to the ever reliable NinjaRobotPirate for clearing my name as we have had a rich history of collaborating to weed out sockpuppets from Wikipedia. Now, as I have intimated before, I had been inactive from Wikipedia for a long while. It came as a surprise that I got blocked and the block was triggered by the actions of, ironically, a sockpuppet account. I would like to direct your attention to this. In that diff, the user that did that to me was Jricaplaza who was suspiciously eager said to implicate me as a sockpuppet of Ajhenson21. A big plot twist though, the user was a sockpuppet of Ajhenson21 himself. I have not had any activity on Wikipedia and have not reported said user for sockpuppetry as I would have done in the past had I been active. But given the fact of my inactivity and I was still the target of a smear campaign led me to believe that the user is somehow connected to Albe23413 and his string of sockpuppets. Why else would he attack someone who has not had any activity and whom he has not even interacted with? The reason I see is that he thought I was the one that reported him. Now after what he did, I don't know what stunt he'll pull off next. I just don't feel safe anymore at Wikipedia with users like that running amok. I fear that the next ploy he'll do, having failed at running me out of Wikipedia, is to track my location and attack me and those close to me. It's not a remote possibility, considering he just showed the extent of his depravity here. I implore all of you for help if we can find a more permanent solution of dealing with this sockpuppeteer. I feel like the more that he stays here on Wikipedia, the more that I'd be the subject of his attacks. I am hoping for a resolution of this concern. Thank you and warmest regards to you all. Gardo Versace (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- User:Gardo Versace Concerns of this kind are probably best treated under BEANS (i.e. that is, not here). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:17, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- @RandomCanadian: Apologies if I'm venting this at the wrong forum, but right now I am panicking over what is happening. Apart from the fact that I've been busy, I've been dealing with a mental health problem which I am not actually comfortable to disclose. After this occurrence, it has heightened my paranoia and I am now having anxiety attacks. I panicked that's why I went with this forum. Again, I am very sorry for going with the wrong forum. Warmest regards to all of you Gardo Versace (talk) 22:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, Gardo Versace, I think this is fine. Listen, I'll try to ease your mind: there is no technical way in which they can get to you. What I mean is it's not through the technical aspects of any of your Wikipedia edits that they can figure out who you are--now, if you divulged information, that's different. Like, there's people who drop email accounts, location information (in my case, it's not hard to figure out I live in Alabama), personal information, that sort of thing. I don't put my kids' names on here anymore, for instance--yes, I've had to deal with an online harasser.
But, by the same token, there's little we can do on our end. We can block accounts, we can scrub things they say if they reveal private information, that sort of thing. Have a look at WP:DWH: if such a thing happens, contact ArbCom--that's the first step. What we can do here is remain vigilant and keep blocking; I've semi-protected a bunch of the articles, but I know, that's not much. That person is a serious ... well I can't say what I think: they're following me around to just to fuck with me. That's pretty sad. So, as long as you stay safe on your end, and be mindful of what you put on this website, and you keep in mind what you put on social media and online, you are doing all you can and their harassment is not likely to spill over outside Wikipedia, and keep us (or ArbCom) posted of anything that goes outside of "regular" on-wiki harassment. I wish I could make it sound better. Take care, Drmies (talk) 23:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- I understand Drmies and RandomCanadian, thanks for having the patience in helping me to ease my worries. I'd be careful alright, knowing that he's lurking out there somewhere. I am not active anymore on Wikipedia and only check from time to time, I hope to not be surprised again with another block that I allegedly committed while I was inactive. In the 4 years that I've been doing this, I have given my best efforts to live up to the 5 pillars of Wikipedia and I fear that all that hardwork would go up in smoke again because of another attempt at smearing my name. I fear that one day, he'll wise up and actually create a false account with which to finally pin me down. Sorry if I again used your talk page to vent out, I guess I could use someone to talk to and you've done just that. Thank you and warmest regards. Gardo Versace (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Gardo Versace: You're welcome. I could also use some venting, but I guess that's entirely on me for being cynical about the "truth" sent
from abovefrom Trump. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:51, 18 April 2021 (UTC)- Hey Drmies (and NinjaRobotPirate), tangential to this - from a checkusery perspective, is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Ajhenson21 actually Albe23413? Similar interest in harassing Gardo Versace and Filipino TV, wanted to get an opinion from you all before shuffling the cases around (...again). All known Albe socks are stale, so this is going to have to rely on the CU log and/or any notes you might have kept. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:20, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- I certainly don't have any notes, no. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 01:23, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- From what I can tell, they're probably on the same IP range. I don't remember much about the case, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Drmies (and NinjaRobotPirate), tangential to this - from a checkusery perspective, is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Ajhenson21 actually Albe23413? Similar interest in harassing Gardo Versace and Filipino TV, wanted to get an opinion from you all before shuffling the cases around (...again). All known Albe socks are stale, so this is going to have to rely on the CU log and/or any notes you might have kept. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:20, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Gardo Versace: You're welcome. I could also use some venting, but I guess that's entirely on me for being cynical about the "truth" sent
- I understand Drmies and RandomCanadian, thanks for having the patience in helping me to ease my worries. I'd be careful alright, knowing that he's lurking out there somewhere. I am not active anymore on Wikipedia and only check from time to time, I hope to not be surprised again with another block that I allegedly committed while I was inactive. In the 4 years that I've been doing this, I have given my best efforts to live up to the 5 pillars of Wikipedia and I fear that all that hardwork would go up in smoke again because of another attempt at smearing my name. I fear that one day, he'll wise up and actually create a false account with which to finally pin me down. Sorry if I again used your talk page to vent out, I guess I could use someone to talk to and you've done just that. Thank you and warmest regards. Gardo Versace (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, Gardo Versace, I think this is fine. Listen, I'll try to ease your mind: there is no technical way in which they can get to you. What I mean is it's not through the technical aspects of any of your Wikipedia edits that they can figure out who you are--now, if you divulged information, that's different. Like, there's people who drop email accounts, location information (in my case, it's not hard to figure out I live in Alabama), personal information, that sort of thing. I don't put my kids' names on here anymore, for instance--yes, I've had to deal with an online harasser.
- @RandomCanadian: Apologies if I'm venting this at the wrong forum, but right now I am panicking over what is happening. Apart from the fact that I've been busy, I've been dealing with a mental health problem which I am not actually comfortable to disclose. After this occurrence, it has heightened my paranoia and I am now having anxiety attacks. I panicked that's why I went with this forum. Again, I am very sorry for going with the wrong forum. Warmest regards to all of you Gardo Versace (talk) 22:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you
Is there a barnstar for bacon? --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, you can make them yourself. User:Kelapstick/Bacon Cabal has a picture. I'm not sure how active the cabal still is, but we're not very strict about membership; perhaps Kelapstick can inform us what the requirements are. After all, he is the MacDaddy, and those pictures are his. I wonder if his wife still allows him to make those. I understand he's been a strict diet of capybara for a while. Drmies (talk) 17:46, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- I guess I can give it a try. Kelapstick is eating capybaras? --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear you can use User:Kelapstick/Bacon Cabal/Bacon barnstar tempalte for the bacon barnstar. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:14, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- I thought about giving someone a Bacon barnstar since someone else called them the "bacon of objectivity", but then I figured it might not be taken in the spirit it was given. Thanks anyway!--Kansas Bear (talk) 20:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
![]() | The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar |
Thank you for helping me with my sockpuppet reports. Zai (💬 • 📝 • ⚡️) 16:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC) |
ANI notice where you have been mentioned
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — MarkH21talk 18:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 08:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Please redress
Dear Drmies,
With respect to your recent edit, I agree of course that "Wikipedia user space is for working on articles and other activities related to Wikipedia". However, your statement about "material used to harass on other WMF projects" is unfounded. It is hard for you to judge, so i'll give you some background.
The Arbitration Committee of the Dutch wikipedia has accepted my case against unlawful actions by User:Daniuu and Natuur12 against my articles and me for arbitration. (Google Translate Dutch-English has improved a lot recently, so you can read for yourself.) Daniuu has acted rashly here by removing clearly innocent Dutch text on a false claim and hoax. The text was intended for the allowed space https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/nl/Wikipedia:Humor_en_onzin and conforms fully to the traditional rules there. So there is no harassment whatsoever by me, as User:Daniuu should know. You can check that i was, am and intend to be a decent Wikimedian on various wikiplatforms. I am a moderator on nl.wikibooks. Daniuu has no valid argument. We should not allow cross-wiki editorial violence.
- So, could you please restore the text you removed as would be correct? Thank you, Hansmuller (talk) 09:48, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Seriously? You are blocked indefinitely on the nl-wikipedia for "Verstoring/bedreiging van werksfeer" after this extensive discussion about these jokes of yours, which you may claim are innocent and "conform ... to the traditional rules there" but that are clearly perceived as disruptive and threatening. So this is a no. And no, this isn't really hard for me to judge. If you restore that material I will block you: the content you are posting here, in your user space on en-wiki, merely serves to extenuate disruption across platforms, especially since Daniuu, an administrator on the Dutch Wikipedia, is also an active participant on the English Wikipedia, and thus has a right to complain about your shenanigans. If they were disruptive there, they are disruptive here, or, as you put it, "We should not allow cross-wiki editorial violence." Drmies (talk) 14:53, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
FYI...
I agree with you 100% on both substance and outcome (because of course I do), I'm just encouraging you to be slightly more nuanced in your entirely correct statements :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 18:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks--but like so many people I also get tired of having to explain the sky is blue... Drmies (talk) 20:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Blue? Know your Dpbsmith, Doktoro! User:Uncle G/On sources and content#There are no exceptions to everything. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 00:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- And Zaphod Gearbox, on another matter, you may enjoy reading John Stuart Mill's On Liberty. See s:Page:On Liberty (4th Edition).djvu/66 from the point beginning "The greatest orator, save one, of antiquity, has left it on record that he always studied his adversary’s case".
If you want to pass your Senior Cambridge, you need to know what every schoolchild is taught on this subject: A Practical Rhetoric: For Instruction in English Composition and Revision in Colleges and Intermediate Schools at the Internet Archive
Uncle G (talk) 00:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- I should keep item 6 in mind... As a side note, Señor Cambridge's Scribleriad was the inspiration for the title of The Scriblerian and the Kit-Cats, edited by a late friend and colleague. Drmies (talk) 14:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Cicero ("the greatest orator, save one, of antiquity") is an interesting example, since some of his most famous orations abandon nuance and civility in favor of unrestrained invective. And of course Mill himself recognized, in On Liberty, that tone-policing was an inherently partisan act and a way of taking the side of the powerful against the powerless:
So I'm not sure either of them would take issue with Drmies's bluntness, but who knows. MastCell Talk 18:39, 22 April 2021 (UTC)With regard to what is commonly meant by intemperate discussion, namely invective, sarcasm, personality, and the like, the denunciation of these weapons would deserve more sympathy if it were ever proposed to interdict them equally to both sides... whatever mischief arises from their use is greatest when they are employed against the comparatively defenceless.
- You are getting Doktoro confused with Zaphod Gearbox. There may be a slight resemblance, and indeed the occasional crossover episode, but one does use a TARDIS and the other an infinitely improbable thing invented by Boris Johnson. It is M. Gearbox who is currently sitting xyr Senior Cambridge on the Turing Test. Doktoro is, after all, already a Doktoro. Uncle G (talk) 19:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Cicero ("the greatest orator, save one, of antiquity") is an interesting example, since some of his most famous orations abandon nuance and civility in favor of unrestrained invective. And of course Mill himself recognized, in On Liberty, that tone-policing was an inherently partisan act and a way of taking the side of the powerful against the powerless:
- I should keep item 6 in mind... As a side note, Señor Cambridge's Scribleriad was the inspiration for the title of The Scriblerian and the Kit-Cats, edited by a late friend and colleague. Drmies (talk) 14:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Vacuum
The Engineering Professor Vacuum is of course awaiting a replacement pump, and an earnest pointer to Google Translate in case one has difficulty with Gallifreyan makes me chuckle.But:Doktoro, there's a Dutch Vacuum Society? When were you going to tell me this? I've just found a whole bunch of biographies, and if I find second sources you might find yourself with a Vacuuum Vacuuum.
- Redhead, Paul A., ed. (1997). Vacuum Science and Technology: Pioneers of the 20th Century. Springer Science & Business Media. ISBN 9781563962486.
Uncle G (talk) 16:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Uncle, I can't help but wonder if you're retired and just don't like fishing. It is true that Category:Vacuum is in need of some work. Drmies (talk) 21:05, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- But I'm not sure what you are pointing at. I'd write up NEVAC, but the sourcing is poor in Dutch and in English--just another trade group/professional organization with a conference and a journal, and no coverage of it. Or are you interested in Pieter Clausing, and that erroneous diffusion coefficient in his PhD thesis, something that seems to have really bothered Irving Langmuir? Drmies (talk) 21:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Definitely the biographies in the book, Doktoro. Vaccuuuming under the furniture seems long overdue. I shall be searching for second sources. Have some pity with the acronyms. I only recently had to figure out what FP420 experiment (AfD discussion) was, and I wouldn't just casually bring such technical articles like that, or immersion boiler or spice rack, here to Articles for Creation. The Time Lords did remove all knowledge of TARDIS-building from your memories when they sent you away from Gallifrey, and I wouldn't want to be the cause of any upset. On the other hand, maybe your lurkers know what a spice rack is. Uncle G (talk) 21:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Stratford General Strike of 1933
On 23 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Stratford General Strike of 1933, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the Stratford General Strike of 1933 the Canadian military was brought in, with machine guns, to which the strikers responded with a rally and a parade? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stratford General Strike of 1933. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Stratford General Strike of 1933), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Page seems to need semi-protection
Sorry for bothering you. I've just reverted this anonymous change which had for over 2 months successfully suppressed the reliably sourced (as in BBC) info that the snooker player who is the subject of the article was currently banned for 5 years for match-fixing. The edit also left the lead of the article ungrammatical (sentence not ended by a full stop - aka period in American English) and absurd (the guy is a snooker player, not a snooker). The fact that this was not reverted for over 2 months suggests too few editors have the page on their watchlist, so semi-protection limiting changes to auto-confirmed users seems required, but I don't know how to request this properly, except by asking my favourite admin to do it. The page seems likely to get quite a bit of traffic because the player who received a one-year ban in the same incident (for failing to report his knowledge of the matter) is doing better than expected in the current World Championship, and his page wikilinks to the abused page. Regards, Tlhslobus (talk) 17:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Tlhslobus, thanks for reverting that--you can make these requests at WP:RFPP, but I think you'd get the same answer there that I'm about to give you: there is not enough recent activity to warrant semi-protection. I'm glad you saw it, but semi-protection, given this history, that's too much. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Drmies, and sorry for bothering you. Tlhslobus (talk) 12:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- No bother at all: thank you. Drmies (talk) 14:39, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Drmies, and sorry for bothering you. Tlhslobus (talk) 12:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
TPA
Hi Drmies. You spamublocked Pulsemedic back in March 2020, but they just resumed spamming on their talk page. You might wish to revoke their talk page access. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:58, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Encroaching fancruft (or autobio)
JoAnne Lorenzana is an article created a decade ago by an SPA who has edited virtually nothing but this article for the decade she has been on Wikipedia. She also apparently has no clue how to cite things even after a decade. It was fancrufty enough already, but today she added a whole new level of misshapen bloat which I noticed via Recent Changes. I've trimmed 50% of the badly cited article, but she keeps adding more stuff back in. Could people help keep an eye on it? (By the way, I'm not even sure the subject meets notability; gets only a handful of Google hits; has some [mostly dead] links to Philippines news articles at the bottom of the article, but nothing comes up on Google unless perhaps in Filipino/Tagalog.) Does not even have an official website (website dead since 2015), so she seems to be making Wikipedia her official website. Thanks, y'all, Softlavender (talk) 06:16, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know, Softlavender--"Web Paper loading" seems like a pretty promising article, though it seems to be a common title. Drmies (talk) 12:40, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ahem! Uncle G (talk) 16:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- OK, thanks, y'all. In fairness to the editor (who I now think is just a fan and still a newbie with only 85 edits -- she recently reached out at the Teahouse to get a clue about editing, and has also contributed to another Filipino musician's article), I'm going to see if I can find Wayback versions of the now-deleted and dead references. (We commonly retain reputable citations if they are dead, and provide archived links.) Thanks again, Softlavender (talk) 18:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Uncle, for that link. I was able to find the direct link to the scanned article from it. Softlavender (talk) 19:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- You might also enjoy the several history professors over at User talk:JzG#Concern regarding Draft:Republican Jesus. I am sure that Doktoro is even now sympathizing with Zaphod Gearbox. Uncle G (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- I wish "a certain amount of profanity" was more clearly quantified. Drmies (talk) 20:47, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- In the words of the immortal Herr Doktor Mies: Fuck no. Shouldn't that title just be a redirect to Donald Trump? Also, I'm not sure a Brit should be doing articles on OUR politics. Softlavender (talk) 20:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- It has already been promoted to Republican Jesus. Uncle G (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Christ. Softlavender (talk) 21:27, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- I find all this very amusing. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'd offer to install a History Professor Vacuum for you, but you in fact have geography coming your way. And that two-sentence cricketer with a puppetteer. I suspect that Softlavender's suggestions here for improving and renaming Republican Jesus to add "Christ" are not actionable. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 23:38, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- I find all this very amusing. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Christ. Softlavender (talk) 21:27, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- It has already been promoted to Republican Jesus. Uncle G (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- You might also enjoy the several history professors over at User talk:JzG#Concern regarding Draft:Republican Jesus. I am sure that Doktoro is even now sympathizing with Zaphod Gearbox. Uncle G (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that the reason JoAnne Lorenzana titled her recent album My Everyday Valentine is because she was born on February 14. I just realized that because I am a Super Editor. Softlavender (talk) 22:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Block needed
Hey Drmies, could you please block Hibby Dibsy? They're an LTA. Best, Pahunkat (talk) 16:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
SP case
Maybe take a look, https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/en/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shuppiluliuma Shadow4dark (talk) 02:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Towns the noo!
DYK for William A. Radford
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- So everyone just ignored Guldner House and you didn't do a double. Uncle G (talk) 06:08, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, right, oops--that was a double DYK, or it would have been if I had nominated it correctly. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 12:25, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Gwerz Skolan
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Philo Beddoe
It's good to see that 'ole Philo is still remembered! I know Clint is more likely remembered as Dirty Harry, his spaghetti western characters, or perhaps even as a great director. Still, I always liked the Beddoe. :-). The follow up may have been even better than the original outing. I thought the chemistry between Clint and William Smith was amazing. Maybe it was just the fact that Smith was a real-life badass. (but I guess that's true of many Smiths). Either way - it's good to know that the Beddoe character is remembered. Hope you're well Drmies. Always good to see your name in the mix. — Ched (talk) 12:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ha, likewise, on that last note. I always thought they were just silly, but every now and then I'm tempted to say "right turn Liam" when I take my boy to school. I need to watch Rumble Fish again, and get the kids to watch it. Drmies (talk) 14:29, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- On the "silly" side, I recently bought Uncle Drew, so I'm going to have to sit down and watch that one. I bet you're boy is growing fast - they tend to do that, lol. My granddaughter graduates this year, so I'm hoping my daughter and son-in-law will let me come out and do a photo shoot for her. Rumble Fish? Hmmm .. now that's a film I haven't seen in many years. Doesn't seem to be on any of my streaming services, so I'll have to check my DVD collection. Cheers my friend. — Ched (talk) 16:28, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Celestina007, right back at you. And now you have a mission. Drmies (talk) 20:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Years of the 17th century in the Netherlands
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- Just a notice that this category is now empty. It looks like years during this time period are being classified as part of "the Dutch Republic" rather than being in "the Netherlands". This category will be deleted if it is still empty in 7 days. Liz Read! Talk! 14:30, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think I saw that earlier for another category. Drmies (talk) 16:14, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Vuurbaak van Katwijk aan Zee
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Article: Annegret Hannawa
I apologize, I am still relatively new to wikipedia, I certainly didn't mean to cause an edit war. Please let me know if I still did something wrong in my referencing, just added what I understand as secondary sources and removed primary ones. --BlackPantherDesert (talk) 09:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- BlackPantherDesert, if a person who is part of an organization gets a grant from another organization, then communications from the person, from their organization, and from the grant-giving organization are all primary. Drmies (talk) 14:03, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Got it, thanks. Okay so, I found this source here, which seems to be a press release from the university that was printed by an independent press outlet: https://idw-online.de/de/news714678 -- would this be considered a secondary source then, because it is an independent publisher? And another question to the source I had found and you deemed primary: this source here is an independent scientific clinical trials registry (independent from any funding agency, projects or partners): https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/history/NCT03855735?V_3=View Why is this not considered a secondary source? Thank you so much for helping me understand this better, this is so complicated! --BlackPantherDesert (talk) 15:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- A press release is not a secondary source, and a registry, while likely reliable, is generally NOT accepted for this kind of information since it gives us no good reason to consider the referenced item noteworthy. That is what secondary sources do also: they bestow noteworthiness on items. If a newspaper or magazine or book, independent of the subject(s), publishes a bit of information, we can trust that they deemed it noteworthy, and so we can accept that. As for the accusations you made on your own talk page, I will address those there. Drmies (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, got it, so there is no acceptable reference to evidence the fact of the existence of a large grant, until the grant is reported somewhere by some press. For example, I found it is reported and prominently showcased in this German nursing magazine here on page 18: https://www.pflegemagazin-rlp.de/sites/default/files/2020-06/12_PFL_Januar_2019-01_Rheinland-Pfalz_epaper_0.pdf An acceptable secondary source? --BlackPantherDesert (talk) 16:19, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- A press release is not a secondary source, and a registry, while likely reliable, is generally NOT accepted for this kind of information since it gives us no good reason to consider the referenced item noteworthy. That is what secondary sources do also: they bestow noteworthiness on items. If a newspaper or magazine or book, independent of the subject(s), publishes a bit of information, we can trust that they deemed it noteworthy, and so we can accept that. As for the accusations you made on your own talk page, I will address those there. Drmies (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- One more: on the SACCIA model (another section you deleted under "research"), I found this here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5704615/ I would consider this a secondary source -- am I correct, or wrong again? --BlackPantherDesert (talk) 15:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, but how can that be a secondary source on the topic of Annegret Hannawa when Annegret Hannawa is one of the authors? And it is certainly not independent. Please see Wikipedia:REPUTABLE, the first main section of the guideline for reliable sources. Drmies (talk) 15:56, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hannawa is not an author of this article, this is a book review written and published by "Kai Schnabel" about the book by Hannawa & Jonitz in which Hannawa first published the SACCIA model. Schnabel's review was published in the "GMS Journal for Medical Education", this is a scientific journal. It seems as though there is no relation between Schnabel and Hannawa, at least I can't find any anywhere online. So is this an acceptable secondary source? --BlackPantherDesert (talk) 16:19, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, but how can that be a secondary source on the topic of Annegret Hannawa when Annegret Hannawa is one of the authors? And it is certainly not independent. Please see Wikipedia:REPUTABLE, the first main section of the guideline for reliable sources. Drmies (talk) 15:56, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Got it, thanks. Okay so, I found this source here, which seems to be a press release from the university that was printed by an independent press outlet: https://idw-online.de/de/news714678 -- would this be considered a secondary source then, because it is an independent publisher? And another question to the source I had found and you deemed primary: this source here is an independent scientific clinical trials registry (independent from any funding agency, projects or partners): https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/history/NCT03855735?V_3=View Why is this not considered a secondary source? Thank you so much for helping me understand this better, this is so complicated! --BlackPantherDesert (talk) 15:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Puppetteer report
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Doktoro, your recent focus on owning Donald Trump socks is quite disturbing, and I went looking for some more furniture for you to combat that.Imagine my surprise at finding a puppetteer lurking unbeknownst to all bar one person behind William Simons, a slightly dead person that the puppet creator has cleverly and posthumously arranged for Google to steer everyone towards instead, and William Simmonds, one of those two-sentence mass-created cricket people that are so the rage right now.It's even a shared account, and even more cleverly Google is steering the other person's name to Eva Simons from Gallifrey.Uncle G (talk) 05:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Wait, this William Simmonds? No, this one--but I think you should write up "Ms. World Automaton", who has the additional benefit of not being able to get married and thus losing her crown. As you know, I don't understand cricket or furniture. BTW I did receive that lovely bouquet of flowers you sent me for Vuurbaak van Katwijk aan Zee, and Mrs. Drmies and I both appreciate the box of bonbons--how did you know hazelnut is my favorite? Drmies (talk) 20:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Certainly the William Simmonds who was supposed to be linked from User:Magnus Manske/Your Paintings, although I only found about that afterwards. I was looking for furniture carvers for you.
As for the bus stop, I fully expected at User talk:Drmies/Archive 133#Speedy deletion nomination of User:Drmies/Stavoren lighthouse that you, with your greater access to JSTORrery, Main Beaming, and — indeed! — Gallifreyan museums would be able to do far better than I could. The factoid about that tourist Peeters facing the wrong way and looking out from the bus stop was not enough.
Although we have discovered that your ISP is hiding things from Eastern Kentucky University from you. That seems like the Scunthorpe problem taken to absurd extremes. I would ask some pointed questions about its WWW filtering if I were you.
Whitworth Art Gallery (1976). "Peeters, Jan the Elder". Landscape in Flemish and Dutch Drawings of the 17th Century: From the Collections of the Musees Royaux Des Beaux-arts de Belgique, Brussels. University of Manchester.
Uncle G (talk) 22:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I found a few hits for paintings of the Vuurbaak, but they were all snippets. The one I looked into was not a notable painter, and I didn't feel like writing that guy up too. BTW the square in this poor picture, yes--the Vuurbaak was a bit of a problem. Everything around it had been leveled and the Vuurbaak was in the way when they were rebuilding the city after WW2. That odd square, the Vuurbaakplein, apparently was kind of a necessity. Actually, I have inquired about filtering, but to no avail. The last time it was all clogged up with obscenities from a certain banned user, and HR got worried about me being in imminent danger. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Tell HR that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Uncle G (talk) 02:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- I found a few hits for paintings of the Vuurbaak, but they were all snippets. The one I looked into was not a notable painter, and I didn't feel like writing that guy up too. BTW the square in this poor picture, yes--the Vuurbaak was a bit of a problem. Everything around it had been leveled and the Vuurbaak was in the way when they were rebuilding the city after WW2. That odd square, the Vuurbaakplein, apparently was kind of a necessity. Actually, I have inquired about filtering, but to no avail. The last time it was all clogged up with obscenities from a certain banned user, and HR got worried about me being in imminent danger. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Certainly the William Simmonds who was supposed to be linked from User:Magnus Manske/Your Paintings, although I only found about that afterwards. I was looking for furniture carvers for you.
- This submission to Articles for creation needs an SPI case to determine who should be the puppet master at William Simmonds.
It is fortunate that this is the English Professor Vacuum, Doktoro.So there are no English professors around to warn of the dangers of working from the Cliff's Notes rather than reading the book.
- Fagence Cooper, Suzanne (2019-12-13). "William Simmonds: The silent heart of the Arts and Crafts movement, by Jessica Douglas-Home". Church Times.
- Aslet, Clive (2019). "Craftsman of art". The New Criterion. Vol. 37, no. 7. p. 63.
Uncle G (talk) 05:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Uncle G: the Doctor's rage here seems to be directed towards service rifles (and "lists of ..."). As for the two sentence directories of non-notable people, see Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)#RFC on Notability (sports) policy and reliability issues... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Doktoro knows all about robot cricket people I suspect. Doktoro is actually trying to get me to write about guns and bikers for xem right now, in fact, although I am having trouble reading Canadiaian.
Perhaps we need to get Doktoro onto Wisconsin Cheeseman (AfD discussion), which xe will immediately recognize as 388 F.2d 420, being a former Lord High Pajama.
Did you know Bernier the Lumberman's name, by the way?
Uncle G (talk) 18:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Re. the name: typical Quebec name; but never heard of him, no. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's alright. No-one knew for 35 years. Xe was from Maine.
- Rounds, Leslie; Routhier, Jessica Skwire (2010). ""Bernier the Lumberman": The mystery carver of Biddeford, Maine, identified" (PDF). The Magazine ANTIQUES. pp. 70–72.
- Uncle G (talk) 00:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's alright. No-one knew for 35 years. Xe was from Maine.
- Re. the name: typical Quebec name; but never heard of him, no. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Doktoro knows all about robot cricket people I suspect. Doktoro is actually trying to get me to write about guns and bikers for xem right now, in fact, although I am having trouble reading Canadiaian.
The zero-effort AFD mass-nominations including Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bottom (technical analysis) have led me to someone who wasn't furniture related, Doktoro.But it turns out that Richard W. Schabacker might be article-worthy despite having no relation to furniture.I discount the massive self-published biography, because there is nothing showing George A. Schade's credentials.But other stuff does turn up here and there.Perhaps the lurkers can find something more.
- Schultz, Harry D.; Coslow, Samson, eds. (1966). "Richard W. Schabacker — Pioneer of Sophisticated Technical Research". A Treasury of Wall Street Wisdom. Investors' Press.
Uncle G (talk) 06:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have been somewhat distracted by Hog Farm's Impossible Challenge at User:Hog Farm/Missouri attention needed, Doktoro; but never fear. I have not forgotten this SPI case. Uncle G (talk) 10:06, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- This submission to Articles for creation is joined up with at least two other new articles. William Simmonds still awaits an SPI case.
- This submission to Articles for creation is joined up with at least three other new articles. William Simmonds still awaits an SPI case.
- This submission to Articles for creation is joined up with at least four other new articles. William Simmonds still awaits an SPI case.