Talk:Wineville Chicken Coop murders

I see on the edit page that steinebeans has done several edits, yet when I read the actual article, these edits did not take place.

I see no record of anyone 'undoing' any of the edits that Steinebeans has made. How come steinebeans edits are not being reflected on the article page?

I don't agree at all with some of the 'editing' that steinebeans has done and wanted to 're-edit' some of the edit words, but it appears to me that the article remains as it originally was.

Beaconboy (talk) 15:44, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

As readers of the book by Anthony Flacco; 'Road Out Of Hell', it is useful to remind oneself that this particular book by Flacco is a book that would be legally considered to be hearsay. There are a few portions where Mr. Flacco's book does not accurately reflect sworn testimony in the legal case against Gordon Northcott (by the key witness, Sanford Clark).

The book by Flacco was written; as told to Flacco by Sanford Clark's son, Jerry Clark many years ago. Unfortunately, the book by Flacco contradicts in several parts, sworn testimony by Sanford Clark himself, as well as the historical and legal account of sworn testimony that was used to convict and hang Gordon Northcott.

While personally, I do believe that Jerry Clark told the story (of Wineville and Sanford Clark) to the best of his recollection (as given to him by his Father, Sanford Clark), I cannot account for the discrepancies in Mr. Flacco's book that differ from sworn testimony at that time by Sanford Clark.

I do appreciate that any reader of the Flacco book may want to come to the Wineville Chicken Coop murder page and "correct the record" (as written by Mr. Flacco and stated by Jerry Clark), but in those areas where this book is in disagreement or contradiction of the sworn testimony, the edits must continually be reverted to accurately reflect the historical record. I have personally had e-mail correspondence with Mr. Flacco several times questioning him on the contradictions between the historical record and Sanford Clarks' son version of accounts. All Mr. Flacco would ever say in his e-mails back to me were to "not blame him". All Mr. Flacco wrote was that this was the story as told to him by Sanford Clarks' son; Jerry.

Thus a few edits were necessary.Beaconboy (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I have recently begun editing the page. If anyone finds and grammatical errors please feel free to correct me. I have added to pop culture and the summary as I have recently discovered the farm still stood in 2009 however if you look on google maps today the site has been totally remodelled (this is a fact I found interesting). I also added that the Collins murder is still classified as unsolved due to lack of evidence. I’m happy to be apart of those editing the page and I want to keep it as factual as possible. Thanks Sph.hb (talk) 05:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

You state that "the Collins murder is still classified as unsolved due to lack of evidence".

I do not know what legitimate sources you are reading that state that "the Murder of Walter Collins is still classified as unsolved due to lack of evidence", but all one has to do is to look up the court record of the State of California against the Northcott's; Sarah and Gordon, and you will see that the State of California convicted Sarah Northcott for the murder of Walter Collins based on physical evidence found at the scene, as well as first-hand testimony of Sanford Clark.

If you read the book, Nothing is Strange with you; by James Jeffrey Paul, you will see a complete analysis of the case that the State of California brought against Sarah and Gordon Northcott which resulted in the conviction of Sarah Northcott in the murder of Walter Collins and the conviction and hanging of Gordon Northcott in the case of the Winslows Brothers and the Headless Mexican.

Beaconboy (talk) 01:25, 5 January 2022 (UTC)