Talk:Tõnu Trubetsky
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Note that this is the same person as Tony Blackplait, whose article did not survive a vote for deletion. Personally I voted to keep that article, in lieu of related articles about an apparent hoax band named after The Flowers of Romance (band). Ironically, if this cited all the same sources as the previous incarnation of the article, it would have been a speedy deletion candidate (i.e. re-submitting essentially the same article that did not survive AfD). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:19, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Gyrofrog (talk) 23:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
User:ZZZZ pasted in the discography, filmography, and bibliography similar to those in the deleted versions of this article. As the discography is pertinent to Vennaskond (and largely duplicated in that article) I've removed it from this one. I used a deleted version's "Books" section that included actual ISBN numbers (a listing of Trubetsky's books is available here, apparently an Estonian library catalog). I would like to direct interested parties to comments by User:Andres at the previous version's Articles for Deletion page; I believe his information outweighed all other considerations and sufficiently established the subject's notability (at least in Estonia). (This is irrespective of the various prank articles, disinformation, etc. that Trubetsky and/or his associates have posted at Wikipedia.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
User:Munn moved the "Tõnu Trubetsky" to "Tony Blackplait" on 31 Dec. 2005, stating that the subject is more well-known under the latter name. Seeing how this article has failed previous votes for deletion based, in part, on lack of notability, I'm not sure that either name is well-established. But since most of the subject's works are under the former name, I propose that the article be moved back to its previous title. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Following edits on Feb. 17 2006 ([1], [2]), the article needs a complete rewrite. Some of the details of the subjects life seem rather mundane (e.g., "Trubetsky began working as an electrician for the signaling board"). Also there are too many links (including red links), e.g. the reader probably won't learn much more about Trubetsky by clicking on 1991 or chord, not to mention very ambiguous links like scene or multiplier. The list of external links is too long; some of these seem to be mirrors of Wikipedia and/or each other. Finally the article needs to clarify that Trubetsky's band "The Flowers of Romance" is not the same as The Flowers of Romance (band) as has been claimed previously in Wikipedia and elsewhere. If I was up to the task myself I would have just gone ahead and done it without tagging the article; perhaps when I have more time. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was just wondering if... a youtube video displaying a live performance of Vennaskond would qualify as an appropriate source? (Not for the whole article, obviously, but would a video with a few thousand spectators and him on stage be of some use in verifying his notability?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DubZog (talk • contribs) 22:02, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On 05 August 2010, an anonymous editor changed the article to indicate that the subject had died. This was unsourced so I reverted the edit. I searched Google News and found nothing to indicate that the subject had died, however there were several articles (in Estonian) mentioning that the subject had switched from the Green Party to the Centre party. (At least, this is what I'm able to discern: Google's Estonian-to-English translator wasn't very clear.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]