Talk:Screaming (music)
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Okay whoever added the "tone needs cleanup" thing.... har har. real cute.Deathtalon (talk) 10:19, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, screamo is a genre of music. It's just that not a single screamo band was mentioned in this article. Google "skramz" if need be. People just seem to get screamo and other closely related genres confused. But overall, I agree that too much of this article was devoted to the Warped Tour scene, in proportion with everything else in the article. Savepenguins1 (talk) 06:23, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm objecting deletion. It is quite possible that this is original research.It's also quite possible to tell the difference between these different types of screaming, and as the topic says, they are often improperly grouped together. I'm not the author of this, but I do scream in a Post-Hardcore fashion, which is extremely different from a death metal vocals or even punk yelling. You can't just group musical singing styles together just because they have a common connection of being forms of screaming. It's like saying let's group together all the different species of cats and just give them the title of cats, rather than their different breeds. I know that's totally of topic, but it's just an example of why you can't group things like this together into one. Each has its own stylistics and and different approaches to actually sing them.Ozzie347 17:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Someone should definitely add Black metal singing to this article, it is different from Death metal so it should be mentioned.MyTemple 16:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The section about punk rock is not accurate at all. It mentions yelling and football chants. That was used with bands like black flag and suicidal tendencies. Thats OLD punk. Somebody needs to mention and describe the screaming style used in modern punk rock (i.e. Street punk)I think the most recognisable examples would be Jorge from the casualties, and the famous "YAAAAAAAHHHHH" used by Mark from The Unseen. In the 80's punk was moslty yelling, but these days its more of a snarling scream than a yell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.178.72 (talk) 22:45, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have ab objection to where grindcore is placed in the article. The style is widely recognized as originating more from the punk geneology than from the metal one (having most of its roots in hardcore), so I propose that it be moved to the punk section, and the punk section be altered from "Punk rock" (which implies the late-90's movement only) to "Punk" (which implies all of its subgenres, from emo to hardcore to crust and all points inbetween, etc). Anyone else agree?
Bradman3001 22:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think that part should be removed it seems like a random advertisement and doesn't elaborate on the topic at all.
Bradman3001 10:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC) Brad[reply]
No, she is the one who teaches peoples to scream better and preserve their voices. This is important.
I don't believe it is important because she isn't a doctor and she tells people that it hurts there voice/vocal cords. I believe it is misleading because I have talked to my doctor about it and he told me that it has the same effect on your voice/vocal cords as chronic singing. I scream for a metal band that I started with my friends and I have to say that after singing my throat feels much more taxed than after I scream.Bradman3001 22:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the line "Screaming and growling can damage the vocal folds if not done properly." She isn't a doctor and if you read the article on vocal folds you will see that they are capable of regeneration so how could she know if they get damaged or not in the first place.69.223.70.52 23:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why not just hardcore? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.5.200.68 (talk) 03:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think theres any screaming in hardcore punk, and metalcore has already got a mention Illwish (talk) 12:09, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There's a bit of screaming in hardcore. I hear screaming in some old AFI. But hardcore is mentioned in the Punk section is it not? BlueGoat (talk) 02:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think this could be a fabulous article, and some of the genre-as-tribe information contained is certainly relevant. But it needs a LOT more to justify the title it's given.
Screaming in music is hardly a new invention. It may be that modern screamers aren't aware of that, but that doesn't make it new, and the suggestion that it's new and radical seems naive, undercutting the credibility.
A citation about screaming leading to loss of voice is needed, and from a source that will control for factors like cigarettes, booze, illness and other factors far more likely to damage the vocal tract than a perfectly ordinary and natural thing like screaming in singing.
The idea that this is original 'research' doesn't work - these are notes: a few cultural observations on beleifs of a few genre-as-tribe groupings. That doesn't make them invalid, just inadequate. It's a good subject - but it ought to be done right.
Tsimbler (talk) 02:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the use of Screaming during the songs is an important component of the Grunge style. Don't you think?. Just hear up there out: Mudhoney, Screaming Trees, Nirvana, Melvins, Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, etc, etc, etc. Why don't you (or we) include it there?. Garage kid. (talk) 04:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What the hell is "Hardcore screamers use blastbeats." supposed to mean? It does not make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.27.243.181 (talk) 06:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't Black Metal be added to this article? I mean, don't most black metal bands use a high pitched screaming and shrieking as a vocal type? Emo777 (talk) 08:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Black Metal is probably considered in the metal section already. KezianAvenger (talk) 20:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone know an official source I can cite that clearly states the difference in screaming and death growl? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyngo (talk • contribs) 15:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I mean they're both pretty much the same thing. Should we consider merging the two pages under the one title screaming (music)? -- 124.184.110.93 (talk) 08:18, 22 March 2011
There may be a difference between British and American rockers in regards to screaming.
See this thread -- http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApdlhQWH0sM1.KhD_MnaNCXty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20110913205903AABoOJF
see the question, and also jonathans answer (starts off "yes!" ).
Someone with better knowledge of rock should look into it, and if it is true, perhaps it should get its own section in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkkelf99 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I propose to change the title to the section titled "Nu metal" to "Other genres of metal", because the sections speaks about bands that fall into "industrial metal" (Mushroomhead, Fear Factory) "alternative metal" (Deftones, Spineshank) "alternative rock" (Linkin Park) and "metalcore" (Hatebreed). Also would be a good idea to rename the "Post hardcore" section "Post Hardcore and Metalcore". Nicrorus (talk) 01:36, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I tried it, and it went on for 25.5 seconds. Really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.61.42 (talk) 12:45, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
this user https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/en/User:Thatposeur971 is adding three photos of three bands on the Same Record label. The article is formatted its One photo per section. CombatMarshmallow (talk) 22:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The style and tone of this article are not encyclopedic; it reads like a column in a music magazine. The text needs to be less "passionate" and more academic. (C.f. the lines about Elvis, to cite just one instance.) Laodah 03:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Clean vocals used to redirect here, but now, most references to it have been removed. Why? The article it redirects to now doesn't mention it at all. ZFT (talk) 05:35, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Melissa Cross. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 13#Melissa Cross until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 18:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]