Talk:List of screamo bands
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Can we by any chance get the "screamo" band list page written by somebody who actually knows what screamo is! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.177.136 (talk • contribs)
None of these are like the original.Where the hell are Orchid,City Of Caterpillar,Funeral Diner,Circle Takes The square,Indian Summer & Envy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.111.201 (talk) 17:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To the above comments: Welcome to Wikipedia "the encyclopedia anyone can edit" - please correct/expand the list as you see fit. Thank you, ThaddeusB (talk) 17:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
maybe it would be a good idea to create a template in this article like in this list List of punk bands, 0–K... ScarTissueBloodBlister (talk) 03:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It would also be nice to keep the list in alphabetical order.. ScarTissueBloodBlister (talk) 03:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hey guys, I had a crack at filtering out all the metalcore and post-hardcore bands which are unaffiliated with the screamo genre. This list should now properly reflect the genre in question.
Also do not add bands who do not have an article. Thanks. ScarTissueBloodBlister (talk) 22:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I give up, just because some web site labelled a crappy post-hardcore band 'screamo' does not make it true. If you want this page to be plain wrong... you're sure going the right way about it!
RichieStoner101 and I are working together on this article to improve it, the back and forth edits between us are not because of an edit way.--SentinelDuty (talk) 19:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please write the article first before adding in their listing. Especially since the listings added lead to an article completely unrelated. If the band is supposed to be notable enough for inclusion in the list then they should be notable enough for an article. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to make note that referencing that a band plays a fusion genre or were influenced by a genre does not mean they play aforementioned genre. Bands like Attack! Attack! and brokeNCYDE may have borrowed some elements of their music from screamo or chaotic hardcore, but that does not mean that they are part of that genre. If x band played y genre but borrowed the vocal style from z genre then they are not part of z genre. BrokeNCYDE are crunkcore, meaning they are a fusion of post-hardcore and crunk with a vocal style borrowed from second wave screamo bands. It does not mean that they are screamo. Same goes for bands like Attack! Attack!, 3oh!3 and Breathe Carolina. Their relation to the genre is indirect, not direct.--SentinelDuty (talk) 07:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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How about we just use reliable sources on this list? That should solve all of the debate over who should be on this list.--3family6 (talk) 17:36, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There has been some debate over crunkcore artists in this list in the past, and my recent reliably sourced additions of such artists are continually reverted by IPs. So I felt I should comment on why they warrant inclusion. Crunkcore is sourced as a fusion of crunk and screamo by the Boston Phoenix. Therefore, any artist described in a reliable source as crunkcore or its equivalent terms scrunk, screamo-crunk, or crunk rock, is a screamo artist. Yes, a crunkcore musician is not purely a screamo artist, but it means they are sourced as including screamo in their music. I am pretty certain that if one looks at reliable sources for even first wave screamo artists, you will find other styles mentioned as well (I would guess terms like "hardcore" or "emo"). Basically, what I am saying is that just because a band plays other styles as well, that must not keep them off the list, as virtually every music artist of any style uses more than one style.--3family6 (talk) 21:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is original research, first you state all crunkcore bands are screamo, then state you only put the ones you like on here. I do not find your disrespect for Wikipedia policies amusing at all. And you are still using dead links for I set my friends on fire Syxxpackid420 (talk) 14:54, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you have understood either of my points. Your inability to Be bold and Ignore All Rules is somewhat startling. But I have no objection to you adding Ke$ha to this article if really want to. Be warned it will attract vandalism though Syxxpackid420 (talk) 18:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've listened all of their songs multiple times, never once have I heard a screamed vocal. They really should be removed from this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.124.35 (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have to disagree with you here 3family6, and Invisiboy. With regard to all "crunkcore," "The Boston Phoenix" is a questionable source with respect to music classification. This is my primary concern with anything on Wikipedia, especially with respect to music and other contentious media that is heavily classified and organized. AllMusic, Pitchfork Media, Rolling Stone, et cetera are themselves questionably reliable published sources on music classification, especially where subcultural or countercultural genres are concerned; minor media segments of various publications (like The Boston Phoenix) shouldn't even be considered. There are a number of sources, some reliable and some of questionable validity, that not only precludes the inclusion of many of the bands on the list, but which also do an exceptional job of explaining precisely why the term "screamo" need not apply to many of the bands and styles listed on this page. Screamo did not "evolve from" the 90's into what it is today. That is, "screamo-fusion" genres are fusions of hip-hop or other genres or subgenres with a genre of music that arguably is not screamo at all. A number of distinctly different and largely unrelated genres have been included on this page. In short, it is a complete mess. From my perspective, and of many other people, the entire classification of the entire segment on screamo needs major revision on Wikipedia. I, of course, will not attempt to edit until I compile and return with links to the various sources for everyone to consider. I have little hope for it to be addressed, given the widespread misuse of the term "screamo" over the past decade. If authors and Wiki admins are willing to accept subpar publications on music like Rolling Stone or Revolver as reliable sources on a genre of music which their editors and various staff weren't even *aware* of for over a decade, then there isn't much hope. None of my sources will be able to compare with the widespread appeal and assumed reputably of the aforementioned major publications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yourchaosisntme (talk • contribs) 09:15, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the flagicons as they have been determined to violate MOS:FLAG, see here, here and here.--3family6 (talk) 18:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
3OH!3, Alesana, As Cities Burn, Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack!, Black Veil Brides, Brokencyde, Blessthefall, Breathe Carolina, Emery, Escape The Fate, Family Force 5, Here I Come Falling, Hollywood Undead, I Set My Friends On Fire, Our Last Night, The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Showbread, and Underoath DO NOT BELONG HERE. Please read the section in the screamo article under Misuse of the term "screamo"
thank you
65.206.213.205 (talk) 02:39, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of the bands in the list of screamo bands are in fact not screamo and are actually post-hardcore, metalcore or crunkcore bandsThese include3OH!3AlesanaAs Cities BurnAsking AlexandriaAttack Attack!Black Veil BridesBrokencydeBlessthefallBreathe CarolinaEmeryEscape The FateFamily Force 5Here I come FallingHorse The BandHollywood UndeadI Set My Friends On FireThe Number 12 Looks Like YouOur Last NightThe Red Jumpsuit ApparatusUnderoath
Rosscowderoy (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible for a "See also" section linking to the List of emo artists and List of post-hardcore bands to be created?--190.159.187.70 (talk) 21:41, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Will editors PLEASE STOP adding Bring Me the Horizon to this list UNLESS they cite a reliable source. I have looked for reliable sources for BMTH being screamo, and cannot find any, and, though this is my personal opinion, I think it is because they are metal and deathcore, and while that can cross over to screamo, it is not at all the same thing.--3family6 (talk) 11:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Given the large number of IP edits lately and the general controversial nature of this term, I was thinking we could set up an edit-protect for this page similar to what they have on the list of emo artists. I wouldn't know how to go about doing this, but I'm hoping else here does.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 03:27, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
THEY ARE NOT SCREAMO! THEY ARE GLAM METAL AND METALCORE![1]
"The band formed in southern Ohio back in 2006 and, like any good hair metal band, has weathered a slew of lineup changes. A mix of metalcore and hair metal, Black Veil Brides have somehow carved out their own sound while still being commercial enough to garner both album sales and slots at big festivals. Constantly made-up to look like 'Shout at the Devil' era Mötley Crüe, the band loves all the trappings of big 80s metal: makeup, fire and explosions, especially in videos."
THEY ARE NOT SCREAMO. THEY ONLY ARE LABELLED THAT BECAUSE OF HOW THEY LOOKED IN THEIR KNIVES AND PENS VIDEO. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE SCREAMO!
REAL SCREAMO IS ORCHID OR BLESSTHEFALL — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 00:21, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
They were talking about THE IMAGE not music. Besides they aint emotional enough to be screamo. They are hair metal or heavy post hardcore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.227.131.233 (talk) 19:59, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"<!--NOTE TO EDITORS: This a list of artists that have been described as "screamo" in reliable sources. Please do not add any artists to this list without citing a reliable source (for more information, see "Wikipedia:Reliable sources" and "Wikipedia:Citing sources"). Do not remove any artist that is referenced to a reliable source. Discuss additions and removals on the talk page. 2 references per artist is ideal, more than 2 are not necessary. Choose the 2 most reliable, descriptive sources.-->"
This is a modified version of the hidden text message at the list of post-hardcore bands. Given the numerous disruptive IP edits to the list recently, do you think we should add this to the article as a deterrant?--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 19:57, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 19:57, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Another editor would like to remove a number of bands from this list, on the grounds that they're not screamo. Can we please agree on what makes a band screamo, and get some references for the bands that are in there, with a view to removing non-screamo bands from the list? Thanks, Lone boatman (talk)
...this line from the lead: "and other styles of music, such as post-hardcore and melodic metalcore, are often also called 'screamo'"? The source is dubious due to being a humor site rather than a specialist source in the genre, bands cited by the author as not screamo are in fact sourced as such, and just in general it gives IPs too much of an excuse to remove bands they think have been mislabeled. For these reasons, I think it should be removed. Any objections?--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 18:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the bands listed here are things like melodic-metalcore, or post-hardcore. I feel like this person just dubs bands that incorporate screaming into their music as "screamo". I'm not musically knowledgeable enough to fix this article, as I'm sure it would come across as vandalism, so could someone who knows what they're doing please fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeiskillingtime (talk • contribs) 16:52, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Editnotice#How to request an editnotice if you are not an administratorPeople who edit here more often than I do might want to request an edit notice that incorporates the hidden comment that's displayed at the top of the article. That comment is not seen if you edit a section but an edit notice will be seen on every edit.
Here is my suggestion:
Talk page here is bold because it's a circular link but will actually link here when added as a page notice. Follow the instructions linked above if you want it added. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:01, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Grindcore isn’t screamo.Pop punk isn’t screamo.Hardcore isn’t screamo.Black metal isn’t screamo.Nu Metal isn’t screamo.A band isn’t screamo because some dork at AP magazine labeled them as such back in 2005.
This article eats ass. 2600:1700:71D0:8C00:C5C4:2096:5BF9:A82B (talk) 17:02, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]