Talk:List of baseball players who died during their careers

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Contradictory

The lead states that this is a list of people who died during a game of baseball. But then it lists the two centenarians, who died of old age. If this is a list of people who died in baseball, the two centenarians should be removed. If it is a list of people who died associated with the sport, then it should include Thurman Munson, who was at least active when he died; and it can possibly cover every retired baseball player who died of old age, such as Catfish Hunter. - Boneyard90 (talk) 15:51, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

  • The lead sentence defines the scope of the list as "list of deaths associated with the sport of baseball". The following clause about deaths during a game is an example, not an exhaustive list of possibilities. I shall expand the lead to make this clearer. Note that this scope comes from sources such as The Cultural Enyclopedia of Baseball which considers a variety of exceptional deaths of players, not just those which occurred during a game. Warden (talk) 23:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

"Incomplete" is putting it mildly

I didn't know that it had been decided by AfD that List of sportspeople who died during their careers should become an index for each individual sport list. We need to expand this page. Below is the content from the aforementioned page:

Baseball players/umpires who died during their careers

Players/umpires with an asterisk (*) are members of the Baseball Hall of Fame. Minor-league players are listed with their major-league affiliations.

PlayerAgePositionTeamCause of deathYear
Nick Adenhart22PLos Angeles Angels of Anaheimcar accident2009
Harry Agganis261BBoston Red Soxpulmonary embolism1955
Steve Bechler23PBaltimore Oriolescomplications from misuse of Ephedra2003
Wally Bell48UmpireMajor League Baseballheart attack2013
Marty Bergen28CBoston Beaneaterssuicide after murdering his family1900
Bill Blair26PChicago Cubsinfluenza1890
Tony Boeckel313BBoston Bravescar crash1924
Walt Bond29OFMinnesota Twinsleukemia1967
Tiny Bonham36PPittsburgh Piratesappendicitis1949
Lyman Bostock27OFCalifornia Angelshomicide1978
Nick Bremigan43UmpireAmerican Leagueheart attack1989
Hal Carlson38PChicago Cubsstomach hemorrhage1930
Ray Chapman29SSCleveland Indianshit by pitch in game1920
Larry Chappell27OFBoston Braves1918 flu pandemic1918
Néstor Chávez21PSan Francisco Giantsplane crash1969
Roberto Clemente*38RFPittsburgh Piratesplane crash1972
Brian Cole22OFNew York Metscar accident2001[1]
Leonard "King" Cole29PNew York Yankeestuberculosis1916
Mike Coolbaugh35CoachColorado Rockieshit by line drive while coaching first base during a game2007
Tim Crews31RPCleveland Indiansboat accident that killed teammate Steve Olin and injured teammate Bobby Ojeda1993
Amos Cross28CLouisville Colonelstuberculosis[2]1888
Jay Dahl19PHouston Colt .45scar accident1965
Mike Darr25OFSan Diego Padrescar accident2002
Jake Daubert401BCincinnati Redsappendicitis1924
Ed Delahanty*35OFWashington Senatorsswept over Niagara Falls1903
Joe DeSa271BChicago White Soxcar accident1986
Lou DiMuro51UmpireAmerican Leaguestruck by automobile after working game in Arlington, Texas1982
John Dodge273BCincinnati Redshit by pitch during game1916
Cozy Dolan34OFBoston Bravestyphoid fever1907
Alfredo Edmead18RFPittsburgh Pirateson-field collision with teammate1974[3][4]
Paul Edmondson27PChicago White Soxcar accident1970
Mario Encarnación30OFMacoto Cobrasunknown causes2005
Charlie Ferguson25PPhiladelphia Philliestyphoid fever1888
Jim Fogarty27OFPhiladelphia Philliestuberculosis1891
Danny Frisella30PMilwaukee Brewersdune buggy accident1977
Miguel Fuentes23PSeattle Pilotsmurdered in a bar in Loíza Aldea, Puerto Rico1970
Tom Gastall24CBaltimore Oriolesplane crash1956
Elmer Gedeon27OFWashington Senatorskilled in World War II1944
Lou Gehrig*371BNew York YankeesAmyotrophic lateral sclerosis (diagnosed in 1939, ending his career)1941
Geremi González33PMilwaukee Brewerslightning strike2008
Eddie Grant352BNew York Giantskilled in World War I1918
Marc Hall27PDetroit Tigersdiabetes1915
Greg Halman24OFSeattle Marinershomicide, killed by his brother[5]2011
Josh Hancock29PSt. Louis Cardinalscar accident2007
Willard Hershberger30CCincinnati Redssuicide1940
Ken Hubbs222BChicago Cubsplane crash1964
Addie Joss*31PCleveland Indiansmeningitis1911
Joe Kennedy28PToronto Blue Jayshypertensive heart disease2007
Darryl Kile33PSt. Louis Cardinalsheart defect2002
Len Koenecke31OFBrooklyn Dodgerskilled in fight1935
Jim Korwan25PChicago Coltstuberculosis1899
Walter Lerian26CPhiladelphia Philliescar accident1929
Cory Lidle34PNew York Yankeesplane crash2006
Pat Luby30PLouisville Colonelstuberculosis1899
Steve Macko27IFChicago Cubscancer1981
Dan McGann391BNew York Giantssuicide1910
Austin McHenry27OFSt. Louis Cardinalsbrain tumor1922
Doc McJames27PBrooklyn Superbastuberculosis, complicated by injuries sustained when he was struck by a runaway carriage1901
John McSherry51UmpireNational Leagueheart attack during Cincinnati Reds Opening Day game vs. Montreal Expos1996
Mike Miley23SSCalifornia Angelscar accident1977
Doug Million21PColorado Rockiesasthma attack1997
Bob Moose29PPittsburgh Piratescar accident1976
Donnie Moore35PCalifornia Angelssuicide1989
Ed Morris32PBoston Red Soxstabbed to death in a tavern in Century, Florida1932
Thurman Munson32CNew York Yankeesplane crash1979
Tom O'Brien27OFPittsburgh Piratespneumonia1901
Steve Olin27PCleveland Indiansboat accident that killed teammate Tim Crews and injured teammate Bobby Ojeda1993
Harry O'Neill27CPhiladelphia Athleticskilled in World War II1945
José Oliva263BSt. Louis Cardinalscar accident in the Dominican Republic1997
Jiggs Parrott263BChicago Coltstuberculosis1898
Charlie Peete27OFSt. Louis Cardinalsplane crash1956
Gus Polidor33InfielderMontreal Exposmurdered during robbery1995
Doc Powers38CPhiladelphia Athleticsgangrene1909
Jim Ritz223BPittsburgh Piratestyphoid fever1896
Jim Rogers271BLouisville Colonels1900
Chico Ruiz32utility infielderCalifornia Angelscar accident1972
Jimmy Sebring27RFWashington SenatorsBright's disease1909
Ralph Sharman23OFPhiladelphia Athleticsdrowning1918
Mike Sharperson34IFSan Diego Padrescar accident1996
Urban Shocker38PNew York Yankeespneumonia1928
Len Sowders27OFBaltimore Orioles1888
Chick Stahl34OFBoston Red Soxsuicide1907
Dernell Stenson25OFCincinnati Redsmurdered during robbery2003
Alan Storke25infielderCincinnati Redsgeneral streptococcus due to empyema1910[6]
Oscar Taveras22OFSt. Louis Cardinalscar accident2014
Jack Taylor26PCincinnati Redsnephritis1900
Al Thake22OFBrooklyn Atlanticsdrowned while fishing1872
Danny Thompson29IFTexas Rangersleukemia1976
Jim Umbricht33PHouston Colt .45'smalignant melanoma1964
Dick Wantz25PCalifornia Angelsinoperable brain tumor1965
Lee Weyer51UmpireNational Leagueheart attack1988
Don Wilson29PHouston Astroscarbon monoxide poisoning1975[7]
Cliff Young29PCleveland Indianscar accident1993
Ross Youngs*30OFNew York GiantsBright's Disease1927

† José Oliva started a game at third base for the Atlanta Braves on May 16, 1995. In the seventh inning, he was substituted for by Mike Sharperson.[8] Both Oliva and Sharperson subsequently died in car accidents, within a year and a half of each other.

PlayerAgePositionTeamCause of deathYear
Josh Gibson*35CHomestead Graysbrain tumor and stroke1947
Pythias Russ26CChicago American Giantstuberculosis1930
Chino Smith28OFLincoln Giantsyellow fever1932
PlayerAgePositionTeamCause of deathYear
Hartog Hamburger37infielderOVVOhit by line drive ball on head1924

Additions

Here are some suggestions of players who could/should be added to the list: John Ake, Francisco Barrios, Cy Bentley, Cy Blanton, Andujar Cedeno, Tiny Chaplin, George Craig and Woody Crowson. Alex (talk) 12:50, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Tommy Hanson

Tommy Hanson was not an active player when he died. Leggomygreggo8 (talk) 16:06, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

It's an interesting case. He was technically still 'active,' just without a team at the time of his death. He belongs on this list, but I don't think putting his team as the Giants is accurate. Alex (talk) 13:20, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

"Over 100"

Causes of deaths during a player's career include the aftermath of beanball. Being struck on the head by a ball was the most common cause of death before batting helmets were introduced to prevent this. Over a hundred batters have been killed in this way

This statement needs to be clarified. In all my time studying baseball, I had only heard of one player, Ray Chapman, who was killed after being struck with a pitch. Indeed, Chapman's wikipedia entry states, "He remains the only Major League Baseball player to have died from an injury received at a major league baseball game."

It appears there was another major league player, John Dodge who was killed after being struck in a MINOR LEAGUE game. These are the only two players listed here to be killed by a pitch.

George Prentiss should be added to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.42.208.183 (talk) 16:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Bo Diaz

Bo Diaz is included in this list, but his wikipedia article says that he retired in July 1989 - over a year before his death. Echoedmyron (talk) 21:30, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Issues with article.

1. Should those whose rows have no references be considered undocumented? Should all tables have a reference column?

2. What's the difference between a "car crash" and a "car accident"?

3. Should suicides be clarified with causes like homicides?

4. In the second table, why are the last teams for Gonzalez and Webb listed as Free Agency? Since each had not played since his release from his MLB team, were they technically even in baseball?

5. Has there been only one recorded college baseball player's death? Steve Georgiadis was a pitcher at the University of Florida in 1990 and died during the season following complications from shoulder surgery. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1990-03-18-9003184061-story.html2600:8807:C885:B600:E4F4:3C50:5605:70F3 (talk) 21:22, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


6. If you sort the primary table by cause of death, there's an inconsistent link policy. For example, there's first use linkage for car crash and suicide, but full linkage to tuberculosis and typhoid fever.

Gprobins (talk) 17:45, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Agree about Gonzales and Webb, both of whom died nearly two years after they had last played professionally, and about a year or so after they had been released from their clubs. I see no evidence that they died during their careers. Will wait to see if anyone has objections, but plan to make the change in the next few days. 70.31.124.93 (talk) 05:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Nick Adenhart

The article says that Adenhart died in an automobile accident, but the driver of the other vehicle was convicted of murder. Shouldn't Adenhart be called a murder victim?

Lou Gehrig

Should Lou Gehrig been included on this list? I know he retired before he died but his illnesses ended his career abrutly in 1941 as it wasn't the ending he planned, and he died from these same illnesses just two years later in 1943. And then there is this famous speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNLKPaThYkE DoctorHver (talk) 22:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

No he shouldn't. Gehrig had been out of baseball for two years....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:01, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Stan Bell

May have missed it, but Stan Bell was another. I don't think there is an article on him. A most tragic story.

https://www.facebook.com/JeffHullinger11Alive/posts/384452563267327

https://www.nytimes.com/1970/09/21/archives/stan-bell-of-the-braves-dies-after-auto-crash.html

BillVol (talk) 13:25, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Should Slim Jones be included on this list?

He died in the 1938-39 offseason, and his SABR bio says that his career "appeared to be at an end" after 1938, but also that he may have solicited an advance on his salary for 1939. Is there a rule for cases like this? Hatman31 (talk) 17:46, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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