Talk:List of accolades received by El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie

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List length

Latest comment: 2 years ago7 comments3 people in discussion

I've seen this list included in El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie before, and it didn't seem very long then, so why has it been spun out into its own list? 28 awards is not really long enough to justify a separate list – and that doesn't even take into account the fact that the OFTA Awards and Gold Derby Awards are probably not notable enough for inclusion. If you remove those items, the list is only 17 items long, which definitely fits in the main article. Moreover, the main article passed FAC with no concerns about the list's inclusion. What's changed since then? RunningTiger123 (talk) 05:51, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think this list needed to have been pulled out from the page. It doesn't change the prose size for all practical purposes. If it were something like 50+ awards and nominations that might be something. --Masem (t) 06:13, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

I just felt main El Camino page was getting a bit too long in length, WP:SIZESPLIT says that any article over 60 kb in prose size justifies sections getting split off into its own section. So I figured this could be its own page in and of itself. If you guys think this should be re-combined, then I'll go ahead and do it. Flowerkiller1692 (talk) 06:32, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

P.S. my primary inspiration for this was the accolades pages for Blue Velvet and The Elephant Man, both which had less nominations than El Camino and have their own pages. I also wanted to include every award on the IMDB awards page for the film, and by doing that I felt the list was enough to become its own page. Flowerkiller1692 (talk) 06:45, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Those other accolade lists are also too short and should probably be merged (the latter list failed an FLC over length concerns). Also, not every award on IMDb needs to be included; Gold Derby and OFTA are typically excluded because they lack notability (see this AfD and this AfD). Finally, since the main article devotes two to three paragraphs for the relatively few awards it received, I don't think moving this table noticeably affected the page's length. RunningTiger123 (talk) 21:36, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

I'll recombine it then. Just an FYI I also create new copy on the Accolades section of the El Camino page to reflect how El Camino was nominated at award ceremonies where BB won multiple accolades, as well as how some predicted the film to win Emmys. Should I leave that in or is that a bit extraneous? Flowerkiller1692 (talk) 21:55, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

If a source discusses El Camino's awards and nominations relative to what Breaking Bad won (like source 170 and source 171), then it's reasonable to include. However, if the relationship between the awards won by El Camino and Breaking Bad is shown simply by linking to lists of awards won by each show (e.g., how you showed that both were nominated at the PGA, DGA, and WGA Awards), then it's probably not a notable relationship because it hasn't received secondary coverage, and it leans towards OR, in my opinion. RunningTiger123 (talk) 14:27, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

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