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COI edit requests

Hi! Navigant has hired me to request some updates to this article. I don't think the proposals below will fully address the maintenance templates currently in the article, but they should begin to help, and I intend to follow up with a second round of requests once I receive feedback on this first round.

Lead:

  • Update revenue in infobox: $1.03B
    (December 31, 2017)[1]
  • Delete: 2016 revenues were $1.05 billion.

History:

  • Condensing the "Mergers and acquisitions" section and adding a table of major acquisitions to sum up its history:
Acquisition dateCompanyBusiness areaPriceRefs
August 17, 1997Resource Management International Inc. (RMI)Engineering$82,000,000[2]
August 19, 1997Reed Consulting GroupEnergy-related consultingUndisclosed[3]
September 2, 1998Peterson ConsultingInformation services$160,000,000[4]
September 24, 2002The Hunter GroupHealth care consulting$25,400,000[5]
February 2, 2004Tucker AlanBusiness and litigation consulting$90,000,000[6]
March 24, 2006Precept Programme Management LimitedDispute advisory and program management consulting$50,000,000[7][8]
August 10, 2007HJA ConsultingHydroelectric performanceUndisclosed[9]
January 12, 2009The Bard GroupHealthcare consultingUndisclosed[10]
January 11, 2010Summit Blue ConsultingUtilitiesUndisclosed[11]
May 17, 2010Daylight Forensic & AdvisoryFinancial consulting$40,000,000[12]
October 4, 2010Ethos PartnersHealthcare management consulting$37,000,000[13]
July 11, 2012Pike ResearchEnergy technologyUndisclosed[14]
October 3, 2012Easton AssociatesLife sciences consultingUndisclosed[15]
May 15, 2014Cymetrix Corp.Healthcare revenue management$100,000,000[16]
February 24, 2015RevenueMedHealthcare revenue managementUndisclosed[17]
January 4, 2016McKinnis Consulting ServicesHealthcare revenue management$52,000,000[18]
January 4, 2016Dymedex ConsultingLife sciencesUndisclosed[19]
November 7, 2016EcofysEnergy and sustainabilityUndisclosed[20]
November 2, 2017Quorum ConsultingLife sciencesUndisclosed[21]
  • I would recommend deleting everything from "Navigant took advantage of the collapse..." through to "...as the sell-side advisor to Easton." (so, the remainder of the section) as overly detailed, poorly sourced to primary sources and/or dead links, and redundant of the table above.
  • Add to end of section: In April 2018, the company partnered with Baptist Health South Florida to form a joint venture providing revenue cycle management to healthcare organizations.[22][23] In August of that same year, Navigant divested its disputes, forensics and legal technology segment and its transaction advisory services practice in a $470 million sale to Ankura Consulting Group.[24][25] This may make sense as a new "Recent history" subsection.

Services:

  • Update title of section to "Business segments".
  • Replace introductory sentence ("Navigant sells four core services:"), which is no longer accurate, with "Navigant's offerings focus on three industry areas:"
  • Move "Dispute and investigative" subsection to the end, rename to "Disputes, forensics, and legal technology" (the actual name of the business unit), and update the final sentence to be a complete sentence with secondary sources: Navigant divested this unit to Ankura Consulting in August 2018.[24][25] I also think it may make sense to add a parenthetical (former) after the subsection title here.

Remainder of article:

  • I would recommend deleting the "Studies/research" section entirely. Its only sources are three primary sources, it's dated, and it only represents a small subsection of both Navigant's research and Navigant's work as a whole.
  • Incorporate the "Criticism" section into the "History" section per WP:STRUCTURE.
  • Update "Accolades" to "Recognition" for neutrality.
  • Replace "Category: Economics consulting firms" with the more accurate "Category: Management consulting firms of the United States".
References

Due to my COI, I won't be editing directly. I appreciate any help or feedback! Mary Gaulke (talk) 00:31, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

A response has not yet been received for this question.

Reply 25-DEC-2018

  Request closed for inactivity  

  • The above edit request has not received any responses in the past 3 weeks (22 days in total).
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Regards,  Spintendo  19:43, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Spintendo! The edit request template had actually only been in place for a week—after I'd attempted to garner interest via related WikiProjects—but I think it is still good for me to update my requests to reflect the current status of the article, so I've done so below. Mary Gaulke (talk) 05:06, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

revised COI edit requests

Hi! As noted above, Navigant has hired me to request some updates to this article. I've updated my requests to reflect the current status of the article after some significant recent edits:

Lead:

  • Update revenue in infobox: $1.03B
    (December 31, 2017)[1]
  • Delete: 2016 revenues were $1.05 billion.
  • I believe the {{third-party}} and {{ad}} flags have been superseded by recent edits and are no longer applicable.

History:

Remainder of article:

  • Replace "Category: Economics consulting firms" with the more accurate "Category: Management consulting firms of the United States".

Due to my COI, I won't be editing directly. I appreciate any help or feedback! Mary Gaulke (talk) 05:02, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Edit #1 to the lead was made. Edit #2 to the lead was impossible as I cannot find any evidence of that claim in the current article. Edit #3 to the lead was partially done — I removed {{third-party}} but I am not quite confident that it'd be appropriate to remove {{ad}} and would prefer that someone with more experience in either the subject area or in handling COI edit requests handle that particular request. The history and category edits were both made as requested. Garzfoth (talk) 19:56, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you kindly! Mary Gaulke (talk) 00:47, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

follow-up COI edit requests

Hi again. Now that some basic structural updates to this article have been made (thank you!), I'd like to request the addition of some contextual information, including restoring and cleaning up some deleted information.

  • History
  • Add after "From 1997 the company acquired a number of other companies.": William M. Goodyear became chairman and CEO of the company in 2000.[1]
  • Add to beginning of final paragraph: Julie Howard replaced Goodyear as CEO in 2012.[2]
  • Business segments

A new section (very loosely) adapted from deleted Services section, which had no external sources:

Business segments

Navigant focuses on three industry areas: financial services, healthcare, and energy.[3][4] Its clients include financial institutions, healthcare providers, utilities, and government agencies.[5]

  • Reception

A few additions:

  • Remainder of article
  • What still needs to be done to get the {{ad}} flag removed from the article? I genuinely can't work out where any non-neutral language is remaining.

Again, due to my COI, I won't be editing directly. I so appreciate any help or feedback. Mary Gaulke (talk) 19:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC); request edit template added Mary Gaulke (talk) 17:06, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply 10-FEB-2019

  Edit request partially implemented  

  1. Y The claims regarding Mr. Goodyear and Ms. Howard were added.
  2. N The section on business interests was not added because it was not clear how Navigant "focuses" on these industry areas nor what it is that it provides to its clients.
  3. N The claim regarding Forbes list of Best Mid-Size Employers was not added because that subject is not independently notable in Wikipedia.
  4. Y The claim regarding HRC's Corporate Equality Index was added because that subject is independently notable in Wikipedia.

 Additional changes made:

  • The claim regarding Fortune's Hot 100 for 2005 was omitted because the subject is not independently notable in Wikipedia.
  • The following claims were omitted because (a) the information at the designated URL's did not confirm the claims and (b) the claims themselves were not independently notable in Wikipedia:
  1. Hot Growth Companies, Business Week, 2005
  2. 200 Best Small Companies, Forbes, 2006
  3. Best Place to Launch a Career, Business Week, 2007
  4. MCA Management Awards, Business Strategy Award, 2009
  5. 200 Best Small Companies, Forbes, November 2004

Regards,  Spintendo  08:40, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Notes

Thanks, Spintendo! I've updated the business segments text below, calling out the key quote in the Crain's source and specifying that the company provides management consulting services. When you get a second, please let me know what you think. Mary Gaulke (talk) 20:14, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Business segments
Navigant provides its management consulting services in three industry areas: financial services, healthcare, and energy.[1][2] Its clients include financial institutions, healthcare providers, utilities, and government agencies.[3]
@Spintendo: Hi! Pinging you in case you happened to miss my reply before. Thanks again for your time! Mary Gaulke (talk) 19:43, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

two COI edit requests

Hi! Back again with two COI edit requests to reflect Navigant's recent acquisition. All the edits are mocked up here, sans the logo since it's in userspace.

1. Adding fate, defunct and parent parameters to infobox, with ref.

2. Updating tense throughout article lead.

That's it! I appreciate your help/feedback. Mary Gaulke (talk) 02:19, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

It's not clear from this "mock-up" what changes are to be made, because the directions, as such, have not been included. Nowhere on the page does it specify what is to be added and what is to be deleted. Regards,  Spintendo  16:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
MaryGaulke, please just state in 100 words or fewer what factual changes you are suggesting, and then add the references that support those changes. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:39, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
@Spintendo and Justlettersandnumbers: No factual changes. The company has been acquired and while this has been added to the end of the lead, the rest of the article hasn't been updated to match. I'm requesting two edits:
1. Adding to infobox:
|fate = Acquired by Guidehouse
|defunct = October 2019 (2019-10)[1]
|parent = Guidehouse
2. Updating tense in article lead (bolding added for emphasis): Navigant Consulting, Inc. was an American management consultancy firm. It had offices in Asia, Europe and North America; the head office was in Chicago, Illinois. The stock was a component of the S&P 600 index. Navigant was acquired by Guidehouse in 2019.
Incidentally, this does not appear to be the correct application of WP:MINDREADER, which is for situations where an editor is in the middle of updating an article and isn't transparent about their process. Mary Gaulke (talk) 17:47, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
You were in the process of making an edit request and you weren't transparent about what changes you wanted to be made, so much so that two separate editors both requested clarification on what changes you wanted — clarifications which you then provided here on the talk page. I think you'd agree that there is a certain inefficiency in placing an edit request of this particular size in two different locations as you originally did. Regards,  Spintendo  17:39, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Request to move article

Requested move 25 September 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


Navigant ConsultingGuidehouse – Navigant Consulting was acquired by Guidehouse and absorbed into it and now functions under the Guidehouse name DS from Guidehouse (talk) 19:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello Wikipedia editors, my name is Danny. I am a representative for Guidehouse, which has combined with Navigant Consulting as currently outlined in the article. Our new partnership is now functioning under the name of Guidehouse and so I would like to propose moving this article to the name "Guidehouse". Once that's complete, I've prepared a draft article to clarify the company structure and history. In case editors would like to see that it, that draft is available on my user page. If any editors have questions or comments on this move request, please feel free to ping me either here or on my user page. Thanks, DS from Guidehouse (talk) 19:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

  • Support. Kudos to the OP for doing his homework and accurately disclosing the COI. This seems reasonable. 162 etc. (talk) 20:20, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Ideas to update article

This is Danny from Guidehouse, happy to see that this article was moved! I have some suggestions on how to improve the article, which are below. Arbitrarily0 I left you a message on your talk page, this is what I was referring to. Also, 162 etc. I thought you might be interested too, since you left a comment during the move discussion.

Here's a list of what is in the draft:
Introduction
I've expanded on what Arbitrarily0 started

Infobox
Most this information is about Navigant and does not apply to Guidehouse or is inaccurate, so I updated it

History
Like the Introduction, the live History section only focuses on Navigant, so I topped it off with some Guidehouse's history

Operations
This is a new section I am proposing to give the article some structure

Here's the draft in full! New/edited content is highlighted yellow for easy review.

Extended content
Guidehouse, Inc.
Company typePrivate
IndustryProfessional services
HeadquartersTysons, Virginia
(Global)
Area served
Worldwide
Key people
Scott McIntyre
(CEO)
Revenue$3 billion
Number of employees
16,500 (2018)
Websiteguidehouse.com

'Guidehouse' is an American consulting firm for businesses and government entities. It is the successor to PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP’s public sector business and it was acquired in 2018 by Veritas. The head office is in Tysons, Virginia. Guidehouse acquired Navigant Consulting in 2019.

History
Guidehouse began as PricewaterhouseCoopers' U.S. public sector business and in 2018, New York private equity firm Veritas Capital acquired the company. It retained leadership, including Chief Executive Officer Scott McIntyre.[1] Deborah Ricci was appointed as its CFO.[4] After the acquisition, it then operated as the independent company "Guidehouse".[1]

Guidehouse acquired and combined with Navigant Consulting Inc in August 2019 for $1.1 billion.[5]

In 2021, Guidehouse acquired Dovel Technologies.The company acquired Grant Thornton LLP’s public sector advisory practice in 2022.[6]

Bloomberg reported that Guidehouse had an estimated valuation of approximately $7 billion in 2023.[6]

Navigant Consulting
Navigant Consulting was formed in 1983 by Richard Metzler as The Metzler Group Inc.; it provided management consultancy to businesses in the energy and other regulated industries. It was listed on NASDAQ in October 1996, under the ticker symbol METZ. In July 1999, the name was changed to Navigant Consulting, Inc.; the stock was listed on the New York Stock Exchange soon afterwards. William M. Goodyear became chairman and CEO of the company in 2000.[7]

In 2005, the company was accused of overcharging Los Angeles County in a contract to work at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital in Willowbrook, CA. County auditors rejected over $206,000 in expenses, including unauthorized first-class airfares to and from Los Angeles, and determined that Navigant had deleted from their to-do list a number of tasks and goals that they had failed to accomplish.[8] Despite Navigant's work, King-Harbor failed to meet federal standards for Medicare funding in 2006,[9] prompting the county to undergo a radical restructuring plan for the hospital.[10]

In 2012, Julie Howard replaced Goodyear as CEO.[11] In April 2018, the company partnered with Baptist Health South Florida to form a joint venture providing revenue cycle management to healthcare organizations.[12][13] The dispute and investigative division of the company was sold to Ankura Consulting in August 2018.[14][15]

Navigant Consulting Acquisitions
DateCompanyBusinessPrice if known
Aug 1997Resource Management International Inc.[16]engineering$82,000,000
Aug 1997Reed Consulting Group[17]energy-related consulting-
Sep 1998Peterson Consulting[18]information services$160,000,000
Sep 2002The Hunter Group[19]health care consulting$25,400,000
Feb 2004Tucker Alan[20]business and litigation consulting$90,000,000
Mar 2006Precept Programme Management Limited[21][22]dispute advisory and program management consulting$50,000,000
Aug 2007HJA Consulting[23]hydroelectric performance-
Jan 2009The Bard Group[24]healthcare consulting-
Jan 2010Summit Blue Consulting[25]utilities consulting-
May 2010Daylight Forensic & Advisory[26]financial consulting$40,000,000
Oct 2010Ethos Partners[27]healthcare management consulting$37,000,000
Jul 2012Pike Research[28]energy technology-
Oct 2012Easton Associates[29]life sciences consulting-
May 2014Cymetrix Corp.[30]healthcare revenue management$100,000,000
Feb 2015RevenueMed[31]healthcare revenue management-
Jan 2016McKinnis Consulting Services[32]healthcare revenue management$52,000,000
Jan 2016Dymedex Consulting[33]life sciences-
Nov 2016Ecofys[34]energy and sustainability-
Nov 2017Quorum Consulting[35]life sciences-

Operations
After it was sold by PricewaterhouseCoopers, Guidhouse leadership was announced, including Chief Executive Officer Scott McIntyre[1] and Chief Financial Officer Deborah Ricci.[4] Guidehouse services state, local, and federal clients, including the U.S. departments of Defense, Homeland Security, Veterans Affairs, Health and Human Services and State as of 2018.[4]

Guidehouse was considered among the Washington, D.C., region’s largest private companies and in 2018, it was reported that the company had 16,000 employees in 53 locations around the world and $3 billion in annual revenue.[3]

In 2021, Guidehouse moved its global headquarters to Tysons, Virginia, due to an increase in demands for the company's services. It has three offices local to Washington, D.C.[2]

Reception

References

External links

  • Official website
    • Historical business data for Navigant Consulting Inc.:
    • SEC filings

Let me know what you all think. Thanks! DS from Guidehouse (talk) 16:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

This seems well-written, properly cited, and sticks to a neutral point of view. I have no objections to the proposed content. 162 etc. (talk) 16:53, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
I trust 162 etc.'s assessment. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:22, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
@162 etc. and Arbitrarily0:Thank you both for reviewing! Would one of you be willing to make the changes on my behalf? DS from Guidehouse (talk) 17:42, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello! I'm here as part of my work for Beutler Ink, on behalf of Guidehouse, who has asked that I make periodic maintenance requests for this article. Because of my conflict of interest, which I have disclosed in the banner above, I will propose changes here for other editors to review and implement on my behalf as appropriate.

I see the recent move and improvements to the article, and have only one change to request at this time:

@162 etc.: I see you implemented the changes that User:DS from Guidehouse recently requested. If this looks good to you, would you be willing to update the logo?

Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 00:03, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Should be tagged as non-free logo, not public domain. 162 etc. (talk) 02:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
@162 etc.: Hi, I've uploaded it here as non-free use (and flagged the version at Commons for deletion), does that work? Thanks! BINK Robin (talk) 18:48, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Done. I'll note that the Navigant logo [3] should also be flagged for deletion at Commons, since it too is a non-free logo uploaded under the wrong license. 162 etc. (talk) 18:59, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
@162 etc.: Thanks! I'll look into the Navigant logo, I see the user uploaded it as their own work. An this article, the Infobox now has both the Navigant and Guidehouse logos, would you mind deleting the Navigant logo? Thanks again for your assistance! BINK Robin (talk) 19:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
TBH, I have no idea why it's still there; I don't see any reference to that file in the article's source code. 162 etc. (talk) 20:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Well that is rather odd. I wonder if it is somehow pulling it over from Wikidata. I'll look into this some more. Thanks! BINK Robin (talk) 20:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Aha, I've removed the picture from the Wikidata item which seems to have fixed this. 162 etc. (talk) 20:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Excellent, thank you very much! BINK Robin (talk) 20:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
@162 etc.: Hi there! I noticed that the Guidehouse logo is showing up twice now. I updated the Wikidata item with the logo since it got moved over to Wikimedia Commons, and I think that’s causing the second copy to appear. Removing the file name from the Logo field of the infobox should fix it. Because of my conflict of interest, I try to never make direct changes so I thought I’d check if you’d mind taking that out real quick? BINK Robin (talk) 23:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Done. 162 etc. (talk) 09:51, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! BINK Robin (talk) 16:11, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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