Talk:Generation Drag

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:23, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

• ... that model Tyra Banks produces the show Generation Drag, a competition for children competing in a drag show? Source: ^[1]
  • ALT1: ... that the show Generation Drag, which features children competing in a drag competition, has had allegations of grooming? Source: ^[2]
  • Reviewed:

5x expanded by Kbabej (talk). Self-nominated at 15:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC).

• New enough and large enough expansion. QPQ-exempt with fewer than 5 nominations. There is one textual issue, which I address below.

* I cannot support ALT1's phrasing because I feel it parrots Boebert's bad-faith allegations right onto the Main Page without sufficient context. I feel like there should be some mention at the beginning of the Controversy section that all of the media outlets and commentators mentioned, from Bounding Into Comics to Outkick, are conservative. If I were not up on my US politics and media, I might miss this detail—and I certainly had to look up Bounding Into Comics and Bleeding Fool to see if they had the same general orientation.

* ALT0 needs a word tweak to more closely match the show's format (and to reduce redundant wording); it's not a competition in and of itself. @Kbabej: let me know if this is OK: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:46, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

ALT0a: ... that model Tyra Banks produces Generation Drag, a TV series which follows five children competing in a drag show?

Thanks for reviewing @Sammi Brie: That makes total sense on contextualizing the critical reviews; I've added a description into the 'Criticism' section to state that. And yes, the suggested ALT0a looks great! --Kbabej (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

I think this is ready with ALT0a only. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:41, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

@Kbabej, Sammi Brie, Theleekycauldron, and Fram: per the discussion at ERRORS, I've reopened this nomination page so that an accurate updated hook can be agreed. The key objection seems to be that the article doesn't say that the children competed. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:19, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that model Tyra Banks produces Generation Drag, a TV series which follows five teens preparing for a drag show?
• This is the hook I suggested at WP:ERRORS.  MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM  22:31, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

I like it, though "teens" isn't wholly accurate, as two out of the five performers are 12 and not yet teens. If the word "teens" is changed to "children", I think it looks good. Proposing the word change below. --Kbabej (talk) 22:41, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• ALT3: ... that model Tyra Banks produces Generation Drag, a TV series which follows five children preparing for a drag show? --Kbabej (talk) 22:41, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Oh, I had checked the first two sources in the article, both of which referred to them as five teens. But since some were preteens, I've struck ALT2.  MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM  23:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• I would support ALT3. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:39, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
• @Mandarax and Kbabej: Sorry — I thought someone would reply to this. Does ALT3 look acceptable to promote? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:45, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Yes, the only difference from the hook I suggested is the replacement of "teens" with "children". This source (unlike the two I had looked at) identifies some of the participants as 12-year-olds, so ALT3 looks fine to me.  MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM  22:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Yep, looks good to me! --Kbabej (talk) 22:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Appears to be consensus on ALT3, nothing else holding this up. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)