Talk:Big Brother 15 (American season)
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Aanybody know when the HG's will move into the house, since the June 26 premiere won't be live? --MSalmon (talk) 10:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think there should be a new color for the MVP on the infobox. And an icon of some sort possibly. CloudKade11 (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think the MVP Nomination section should be under the Nominations (pre-veto) section since the MVP's Nominee will be revealed right before the Veto Competition. Is that okay?--TheDevin13 (talk) 01:19, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the article should be based on episodes broadcast on TV, not live feeds, because most people watch TV. TV viewers want to escape spoilers. Is there a consensus among wikipedians that live feeds may take preference over TV? --Freebiekr (talk) 06:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is asked or "whined" about every year, no this page should be updated like all previous seasons as they happen in real time not based on the 3 episodes a week. It's been this way for many many years now and it's not going to change now. The internet is one big SPOILER, especially when it comes to Big Brother. Type it in google and results show for who is HOH, who is nominated who won the POV and if it had been used and so and so forth. It's also plastered everywhere on twitter, facebook the LIVE feeds itself and wikipedia. If you do not want spoilers I would suggest to stay off this page and any other spoiler sites. (I do not mean to offend you in anyway, but I see this question/topic every season either on here or on facebook and twitter, it hasn't changed in forever and it's not going to change now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.96.104.70 (talk) 09:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who is not a regular wikipedia contributor I realize my points will likely be ignored however I feel I should post my 2 cents anyhow. Yes the internet is full of Big Brother spoilers, be it on Twitter, Facebook, spoiler sites, etc. however, in general these spoilers will not be found unless a person is actively looking for them. Alternately, in the case of Facebook or Twitter or other general social media outlets, there is a typical precedent to post a clearly observable **SPOILER ALERT** prior to making any statements that may have an expectation of ruining a viewing experience for others. In the case of Wikipedia, it is similar to social media in that people use it to gain information about other subjects related to Big Brother and may be unable to avoid spoilers if they are doing so. I obviously respect that there is a precendent in place to post information as it happens and do not wish to convince you to change this, but I might suggest that following other social media conventions might be in order in placing a spoiler alert of some kind to warn those who might be about to stumble upon information they don't wish to see. 137.186.233.236 (talk) 22:17, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think most people are coming to this page to see things that have not been aired on TV yet. For instance, I came here to see when the show would end, but now I have ruined the next episode. There should be some sort of warning, or at least make it less obvious (for instance in the top right I can see who won POV before it has happened). 173.33.154.27 (talk) 14:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I come here to find out BEFORE the tv shows it Smith03 (talk) 15:03, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to point out that there has been contention over the past few days regarding the color of Elissa's square in the first week. The reason we don't color the box for MVP any special color is because the colors are to indicate statuses that can't be simultaneously held with other statuses (ie, it's not possible for someone to be nominated and be HoH at the same time, but it is possible for someone to hold Veto and HoH). MVP and Veto can be held simultaneously. HoH and MVP can be held simultaneously. This is why there's no color for it.
T (talk) 20:17, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Since I do not want to break WP:3RR, I was wondering if there could be a discussion on the inclusion of a section that deals with the controversy that the show is currently facing. Currently, there have been a few moments in the house of comments that are derogatory in nature. I would like to know if the section could be included the article as it last stood based on information from the following possible sources:
Hopefully, this will help to make a decision over if it should be included or if there are not enough reliable sources. --Super Goku V (talk) 01:55, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be appropriate if someone posted a screenshot/screen capture of the disclaimer CBS now airs at the top of each episode? I realize the text itself is nothing different than the statement put out by the network which are already mentioned and quoted in the article, but it might be interesting info for the article to show (or mention) said disclaimer board/screen. If I'm not mistaken the episode of Sunday, July 14th, 2013 was the first to have said disclaimer. KRam41 (talk) 03:51, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Blackbeltswag1 (talk) 04:32, 4 July 2013 (UTC)Edit[reply]
Guys, it is not acceptable to vandalize this page, even if you don't like Aaryn. This is why people don't trust Wikipedia- Because people like you vandalize pages. This page needs to be locked because some people clearly are incapable of being unbiased while editing the page.
JRhorstman (talk) 17:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to add a table of alliances and someone removed it as 'not worthy or notable' or something. Why was this removed? This game is predicated on alliances and those that succeed and those that fail. Have not's are listed. Alliances are 100 times more important than "have nots".
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# | Air Date | United States | Source | ||||
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Households (rating/share) | 18–49 (rating/share) | Viewers (millions) | Rank (timeslot) | Rank (night) | |||
1 | Wednesday, June 26 | 3.9/7 | 2.2/8 | 6.51 | 1 | 1 | [1][2][3] |
2 | Sunday, June 30 | 3.5/6 | 1.9/6 | 5.81 | 1 | 1 | [4][5] |
3 | Tuesday, July 2 | 3.6/6 | 1.9/6 | 5.64 | 2 | 3 | [6][7] |
4 | Wednesday, July 3 | 1.677 | 5.42 | 1 | 1 | [8] | |
5 | Sunday, July 7 | ||||||
6 | Wednesday, July 10[9] | ||||||
7 | Thursday, July 11[9] |
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# | Air Date | United States | Source | ||||
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Households (rating/share) | 18–49 (rating/share) | Viewers (millions) | Rank (timeslot) | Rank (night) | |||
1 | Wednesday, June 26 | 3.9/7 | 2.2/8 | 6.51 | 1 | 1 | [10][11][12] |
2 | Sunday, June 30 | 3.5/6 | 1.9/6 | 5.81 | 1 | 1 | [13][14] |
3 | Tuesday, July 2 | 3.6/6 | 1.9/6 | 5.64 | 2 | 3 | [15][16] |
4 | Wednesday, July 3 | 1.677 | 5.42 | 1 | 1 | [17] | |
5 | Sunday, July 7 | 2.1/6 | 6.25 | [18] | |||
6 | Wednesday, July 10[9] | ||||||
7 | Thursday, July 11[9] |
Mattdonders (talk) 16:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC) Mattdonders[reply]
I do not think Nick has made any racist comment in the show.. Can someone delete his name from the list?! its really bugging me to see that..07:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)07:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.7.52 (talk)
The voting history chart should read
"HOH"
"HOH's Nominations"
"MVP"
"MVP Nomination"
"POV Winner"
"Nominations Post-POV"
The way it is now does not clearly specify who the MVP nominated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.12.114.128 (talk) 03:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it does not seem to make sense to list the hoh nominees and then list the nominees again. I would suggest the only rows needed are hoh, MVP, hoh noms, MVP nom, POV, post POV hoh noms, and post POV MVP nom. 98.122.44.136 (talk) 00:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
At the HouseGuests heading the image breaks up the text. I fixed it. My workaround was rolled back. Having the lede text a yard from the table looks ridiculous, IMHO. Checkingfax (talk) 21:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In Controversy & criticism the sentence "Heren was also referred to as "Faggoty Anny." Heren should be Helen, and it should be "referred to be".Texasboykc09 (talk) 21:44, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Andy's last name is Herren, why would Helen be refereed to as "Faggoty Anny" makes no sense, from what I remember it was Spencer who called Andy that not Helen.
I agree with the last individual. It was not Helen who was referred to as "Faggoty Anny". Instead, it was Andy Herren. 64.184.25.2 (talk) 19:05, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have something for the controversy section, which of course, can be put in your own words. I have just gathered the sources.
The Big Brother 14 controversy section found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_14_(U.S.) contains production interference such as
"On Day 42, shortly after Shane made his nominations as Head of Household, he told Danielle that the production crew in the diary room explicitly told him not to put up Frank and Mike for nomination that week. However, both were nominated and were thus eligible for eviction that week."
"On Day 49, after winning the Golden Ball of Veto from the crane game, Ian alleged several times to various HouseGuests that some of the producers in the Diary Room were attempting to manipulate the game by supposedly asking him how the Ball of Veto will benefit him if he decided not to use it."
"On Day 61, Jenn was in the Diary Room for almost an hour before coming out in a heated, near panicked state, stating her game would be ruined if Frank got evicted and that she was told Danielle told Shane something she had told Danielle in secrecy. She also immediately ran to Frank, telling him he was probably getting evicted and to start campaigning. Jenn later stated, "That was too much for 50 minutes", referring to her time in the Diary Room."
This season, starting on Day 21, both Helen and Elissa told others that production told them not to put Howard on the block. This was shown on the live feeds and every time it was brought up, the feeds would cut.
There aren't any sources listed next last season's (BB14) controversies (as it was all shown on the live feeds), however, I do have sources (and video if requested) for this season's production interference in case it is needed:
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com/elissa-gets-her-orders-put-howard-up-with-the-mvp-hes-the-biggest-snake-of-them-all/
Day 21
Fri, 12 Jul 2013 ***10:38:20 cam 3-4
Helen: “the show doesn't want us to put up Howard.. ohh sorry i’m going to get yelled at”
Elissa :”I know.. “ (feeds cut)
http://www.tvgrapevine.com/index.php/bb15-live-feed-updates/1395-big-brother-15-updates-fake-mvp-covers-his-tracks-12-30-am-bbt-saturday-7-13-13
Day 22
Fri, 13 Jul 2013
Amanda says "why do you guys keep saying production doesn't want you to get rid of Howard"
(feeds cut)
http://www.tvfanforums.net/index.php?/topic/88697-was-helen-told-not-to-put-up-howard-by-bb/
"Yes, the DR would not let her nominate Howard, and made her nominate Kaitlin instead. Then, when Elissa went in there to nominate Howard, she came back and said that the DR did not want her to do that, so she nominated Spencer. When both Helen and Elissa mentioned this on the live feeds, it was immediately followed both times with [the 'We'll be right back' screen]"
http://princessglammy.com/napoleon-cry-allnight-bb15/
"[On Day 22], Helen then confided in Elissa, that production had refused to allow her to put Howard on the block so she had to put up Kaitlin with Aaryn"
http://boards.soapcentral.com/showthread.php?891110-Spoiler-Thread-Nominations-etc&p=18489306
"****ok here we go with the BB producer little funny business, Helen, Elissa, McManda, Andy in HOH talking about who to put up for MVP. Amanda is giving reasons to put Howard up. One of them says, they do not want us to put Howard on the block. LF updaters think producers (DR maybe) have nugged HG not to nominate Howard. Because LF cutout twice from hearing the rest of this convo. Sounds fishy to me."
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=9731517
"DR is putting blatant pressure on Helen not to put Howard on the block."
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com/big-brother-15-spoilers-live-eviction-and-hoh-results-jeremy-vs-aaryn-vs-spencer/comment-page-4/#comments
"It is rigged… did you miss the after dark show where Helen and Elissa decided to put Howard on the block and Elissa got called into the DR and came back and said I get the feeling Production doesn't want us to put up Howard… so they didnt.."
By the way, I posted this before and a user with the IP address of 208.96.104.70 just deleted my section from this talk page.
Here is the revision where they deleted it.
http:https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=en&q=Talk:Big_Brother_15_(U.S.)&diff=564590375&oldid=564584127
Apparently, someone is trying to keep it a secret. But we must keep consistency between articles.
Hitchcock5 (talk) 03:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why are the nominees put up when they weren't nominated yet? POV hasn't been. MVP nominee hasn't been.82.135.153.237 (talk) 07:33, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Signalizing (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]Thanks for whomever took the nominations and POV that haven't happen yet off of Wiki. I believe the nomination ceremony is tomorrow/later today. :)
This weeks nominations have not happened as of this time, and probably won't happen for hours yet. Someone has inserted their prediction for HoH noms. This needs to be undone and appropriate action taken to prevent more Crystal Ball usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.199.23.225 (talk) 21:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Our Crystal Balls (i-e The Live Feeds) are reliable..More reliable then most crystal balls. --64.111.153.240 (talk) 02:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Could we possibly make the MVP Nomination in the table a different color? I barely notice the BOLDED name. Maybe a BLUE or RED?--Tech-Chef (talk) 18:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In Controversy & criticism, someone changed Harren to Helen in this spot "Spencer Clawson and Amanda Zuckerman, who were caught referring to Helen as "Kermit the fag"[165] and "Faggoty Ann", and took out harren here "Gries was caught stating that Andy, a gay HouseGuest, could become the M.V.P".Texasboykc09 (talk) 13:20, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Signalizing (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]How about putting the food for the have-nots under the names each week?Lm5403 (talk) 21:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, if America votes for it then it should be listed, it's still a game impact.208.102.141.208 (talk) 00:06, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
{{edit semi-protected}}
is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Signalizing (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]"In The Balance" is missing for the comp that Jeremy won in episode 6. It's not listed there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raziellight3 (talk • contribs) 06:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How is it possible that Week 6 results, including the 2nd eviction of the week, are posted?
I think someone is messing around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.3.235 (talk) 12:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.3.235 (talk) 15:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We have precedent for using the purple color for jury members in the info box before the season ends. 216.39.200.85 (talk) 21:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"I'm not against making it teal, but if we do, we should change it to a more muted tone. I think it would be in our best interest to stick with the purple and use some other color for "Jury Members". My reasoning for this is that when a jury member gets evicted, it'll just be red/pink like everyone else that's evicted, the infobox won't need to be updated to match the chart. I'm not terribly certain why Jury Member needs to have a separate color anyways, since the box with jury votes is always changed to the standard square after the season ends anyway. Anyone have an opinion on this?
— User:T 04:11, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
I went ahead and put a gold color in place. I still think the purple will work better and that abolishing the purple being used for jury members is the best bet, but I have that in place for now.
— User:T 04:23, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
I think we were one of the few that didn't want the Jury to have a color but everyone else did if I am not mistaken. So the compromise was while the program was in progress that the purple color would be for Jury and then it switches to America's Favorite HouseGuest after the season ends. So either way you go the purple color is in use on both templates.
— User:Alucard 16 05:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
What football game was CBS televising only on the west coast? Is it possible the person who wrote this lives in a city in which the cbs station had a local game? I doubt it effected the whole west coast, but maybe I am wrong Smith03 (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This page needs to be locked until the end of the season. Vandalism of the Voting History started immediately after the previous lock period expired. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmanphxaz (talk • contribs) 07:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are some controversies missing. For example: Amanda making racist remarks during POV (calling Candice "Saniqua"), ex-members of the Production Team claiming the game being rigged for Amanda, etc. BBINDFAN (talk) 19:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Aaryn, GM and Amanada have all been fired, and shouldn't that be of note? The part in which says contestants should it have these noted as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.216.51 (talk) 02:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was wondering, shouldn't Aaryn's eviction where Julie Chen discussed with Aaryn her comments she made on the show, be included on here as it was very significant to place in there? I think it should be, if not, sorry for asking! Just think its important to note on here! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.96.104.70 (talk) 06:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to run into a 3RR problem soon on this, so can someone else fix McCrae's age "on entry"? The source is the official CBS website: [1]. I think other editors keep changing it because McCrae had a birthday in the house, but for consistency sake, the table is based on age on entry. Singularity42 (talk) 03:10, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Given the amount of IP vandalism since the page protection ended, anyone think it is worth another request? I think this time it should be until September 19, 2013 (the day after the season ends)... Singularity42 (talk) 03:06, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the voting table has been replaced by User:JHUbal27's newer version. That's great, but I see one problem. The table requires transclusion of templates from JHUbal27's user space (primary the user sandbox). User space is great for experimentation purposes, but we should not be transcluding them (or substituting them) into the main article namespace. Instead, the templates in the user sandbox should be moved to the template space, and the links in this article should be updated accordingly. 18:41, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
{{BBEvic|Day|vote="name"|evict="number of votes"}}
@Msalmon and Singularity42: JHUbal27 simply got excited. I fully intend to move the template to template space when it is done. No worries. I would have just cleaned up the usage from his sandbox with AWB. No harm done though. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 22:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed that a lot of the wording in this article is using passive voicing. Most of what bothers me is the phrase "were required" or "had to" such as:
I have edited and rewritten some of the passive voicing out of this article, but is the fact that each task (PoV, HoH) is "required" redundant. Isn't it assumed that each HouseGuest must complete these competitions to stay in the game? Should this be different? Calebrw (talk) 16:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC) (edited: Calebrw (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Please edit the "Eviction votes received" section of "Voting History" to reflect that Spencer now has a total of 4 votes received (2 from previous weeks and 2 from this past Thursday.) Thank you.69.247.124.190 (talk) 13:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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