Talk:Battle of Chamdo
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Shouldn't this page be named something more than just the "Battle of Chamdo" if it includes a section about the preceding resistance by warlords in the Kham region? Also, the exactingly-worded page on the "Incorporation of Tibet into the People's Republic of China" includes a section called "Invasion of Tibet" which links here - where there is another section called "Invasion of Tibet" (which describes the Battle of Chamdo). Surely the section on this page should be called the "Battle of Chamdo", and the whole page called the "Chinese Invasion of Tibet".Furthermore, citations [9] and [10] make no mention of an official Chinese usage of the "Liberation of Chambo", only a "Liberation of Tibet", or a "Peaceful Liberation of Tibet". The citations would serve as well - better, in fact - if the title were changed.87.114.154.10 (talk) 23:57, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
200.33.161.74 made a number of edits moving the article towards the PRC POV. Some of the edits were wording changes that reasonable people can (and have) disagree(d) on, for example invasion vs. liberation. Probably 200.33.161.74 should have discussed these first.
However other edits changed wording to direct quotes and statistics without regard to the sources, and a few of the wording changes created dead links from live ones: 8,500 -> 850,000 Tibetan troops, 5,000 -> few Tibetan casualties, "...Quamdo Battle..." -> "...Quamdo Skirmish...", Incorporation of Tibet into the People's Republic of China -> Reunification of Tibet into the People's Republic of China. Because of these, I reverted before discussing back to the 5Aug11 version by Davin.--Wikimedes (talk) 18:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you as this page is giving a completely different perception of the Battle of Chamdo. I've found recently this tendency - favouring PRC - in several articles directly or indirectly related to China. And this is very serious.--Gicacoca (talk) 10:12, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Was the campagn (= internal campaign name in PLA) really "Battle of Qamdo"? Sure not. Please rename the article to the PLA's campaign name, or maybe just change the word "campaign" or just "The Battle of Chamdo was the result of a Chinese campaign to invade Tibet." ?Cheers! --129.132.191.142 (talk) 19:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It says in the article that "Britain wanted talks in India", and "Britain wanted no talks at all". Which one is true? If there are any more contradicting statements also put them here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yny501 (talk • contribs) 12:04, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
5,000 "liquidated" needs to be reconciled with the rest of the text. What's meant by liquidated? Is there legitimate disagreement between scholars? If so, what and why? MarcusGraly (talk) 17:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This page appears not to comply with Wikipedia's NPOV policy, and I have tagged it as such.
1) For example, the page is entitled "Battle of Chamdo", whereas I believe a historically correct description is "Chinese invasion of Tibet."
2) In the description, the event is described merely as "The Battle of Chamdo (Chinese: 昌都战役), or known officially in China as the Liberation of Chamdo". I believe this is plainly written from ROC's point of view, and not a NPOV, e.g. "Chinese invasion of Tibet" is not mentioned at all, and "Liberation of Chamdo" can only be a reasonable decription from one entity's point of view, namely ROC's.
3) It refers to "de facto independent Tibet" which implies that Tibet was not an internationally recognized nation, but one which was de iure not independent, but only independent de facto. This again is not NPOV.
4) The page claims that the invasion ("liberation") only took after "months of negotiations". I believe that months of demands for a nation to surrender its independence to a foreign invader, following an invasion by the said invader, can hardly neutrally be called "negotiations".
5) Tibet's territorial integrity is written in quotation marks ("territorial integrity"), implying that the author considers the territorial integrity of a sovereign (and internationally recognized as sovereign) nation as being fake.
Etc. The whole of the rest of the article is written in this way, i.e. not from a NPOV. Perhaps someone else can add to my observations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarian.liber (talk • contribs) 13:51, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Reverting; unexplained removal of "De facto independent"; for the second edit, please provide the page number of the International Commission of Jurists report. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:37, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Battle of Chamdo is a part of Annexation of Tibet by the People's Republic of China.--36.234.29.139 (talk) 06:35, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Check the source cited for the casualty total. Definitely not a neutral article TiddiesTiddiesTiddies (talk) 13:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually never mind, I was thinking of the other article linked in the source TiddiesTiddiesTiddies (talk) 13:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]