Talk:Alhambra Decree
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Seems like the first paragraph digresses greatly from the purpose of the article. I would like to see most of it removed and stick to the purpose of the page which is to describe the Alhambra Decree, not the revocation of it, and the insignificant attempts of the responsible parties to apologize. Almost seems like an advertisement for Catholicism. Definitely written by a Catholic apologist at least. I am asking for a neutral party to consider cleaning it up a bit. Or moving some of it to the bottom of the article because being at the top seems to steer the reader in a certain unnatural direction. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.16.212 (talk) 23:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly disagree. From your opinion, it seems that your ideal article would be an inflammatory tirade against Catholicism. The truth is that the article as it is makes absolutely no reference to the fact that the "special status" the Jews enjoyed with their Muslim overlords was thanks to their collaboration financing raids against Spain and providing the Muslims with information. So yes, the article is one-sided, but not for the reasons you brought up. Either leave it as it is or let's get to work completing ALL the missing info, not just the one that you like and enjoy reading. Thank you. 181.21.104.114 (talk) 03:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Should the text of the Alhambra decree be moved to Wikisource? -PoptartKing
Thats normal. the translation of a text is not the text but a translation :-!.Important to know is that this text is not very popular in Spain and Latinamerica where the Inquisition "completed" the expulsion of Iberia (Portugal 5 years later) killing the rest identity of jewish and conversos in Europe and specially in the "New Kingdom of Granada". Anyhow there are more than facts which witnessed the jewish heritage in Latinamerica. Nowadays genetics are proving this fact that America was discovered, colonized and populated partially thru those expulsed and sons of jewish people.
I've at times found the Alhambra Decree cited in various works as not only an expulsion of Jews but also Muslims. Was there a separate decree for Muslims, or should this information also be included in this article? ---Trippz (talk) 07:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that Muslims were threatened and persecuted while Jews were straight-forwarldy expelled. There was, after all, the Treaty of Granada that the Catholic Monarchs agreed to, that gave numerous and reasonable rights to Muslims, before breaking it. 151.197.117.178 (talk) 04:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks an awful lot like the Edict is written with the Arabic alphabet (though it looks like it's written left-to-right, so I cannot assume that it is also in Arabic). Might some mention be given of what language the edict was actually written in? RobertM525 (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I did a Google Image search for Alhambra Decree, and I found many other images of the same document. Unfortunately, I didn't see any that spoke to the language on said document. RobertM525 (talk) 04:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Muslims were converted or expelled later, starting from 1497. The 1492 decree only concerned Jews. Giordaano (talk) 10:21, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
'''In Spanish, obviously!'''The original 1492 Decree language was wrote was: Spanish, obviously! and signed by 'Yo, el Rey' and 'Yo, la Reina', and granted by Royal Secretary signature 'Joan de Coloma' suposed to have jews ancestors. Any other suposed translation to ancien sephardic language 'ladino' or arabic is a mixtification, a fake. Decree order jews must 'salida' -comes out- not only off Spain's shores but also off all Isabel & Fernando possesions beyond Spain mainland: Naples, Corsica & Sardinya, Balearics Islands, Canary Islands, north africans 'plazas', etc. and after comes in effect over the Americas. But did not comes in effect in Navarra kingdom, because it was incorporated to Castila crown by King Fernando in 1512. Infamous Spanish Inquisition was banned in 1836, liberty and freedom for any religion in Spain was stablisehd in 1868. Since 1924 to nowadays, alls Spain' governments and rulers have issued nationals passaports to any sephardic jew who apply for. In WWII, Spanish diplomacy helped and saved over 56,000 jews a top record figure -much more than Sweden and Dennmak did- an never was involved in Holocaust: in reverse of french Vichy pro nazi government, not a single jew was rounded, put under arrest or deported by Spain in WWII years. And the 1492 expelletion decree has officially repeled in 1968 by Franco dictatorship and in 2002 by democratic king Juan Carlos the Ist. Spain have fully diplomatics relations with Israel since 1985 -including spanishs weapons deliverings to Israel. Minister of External Affairs officially funds the 'Casa Sefarad' institution to improve sephardic past. Barcelonne city is sistered with Tel Aviv. And a lot of ancien cities proud of its sephardic roots as Gerona, Toledo, etc. have developed 'Red de Juderías de España' -'Sephardics streets web', a 'judería' means a ghetto, an urban toponymia: a pack of cornered and narrows middle age's streets or 'barrio' where sephardics jews used to living. Lot of spanishs journalists, intelectuals and politicians both from left and ritgh wing openly suport Israel policy and jewish heritage. Of course, as a democratic, modern and a free country must do, thre is not any anti jew law or rule nowadays in Spain, and since more than 150 years. So: case closed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.201.84.254 (talk) 12:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Who were the secular in 15th century Europe? This entire article sounds like Christian apologetics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.253.73.146 (talk) 18:06, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please avoid hyperbolic language. There is no "outright lie" involved and this is not an adequate venue for internet warring.Asilah1981 (talk) 16:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What do modern genetic studies of Spanish men have to do with the actual Alhambra Decree. It should be removed from this location as it has no bearing here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.162.77.10 (talk) 18:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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This article has been proposed for merging to Expulsion of Jews from Spain. Your feedback would be welcome at the merge discussion. Thank you. Mathglot (talk) 01:44, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]