Talk:Afreen Afreen

The two infoboxes disagree who actually wrote the music. What it Khan or Mehmood? Can't be both (unless Mehmood adapted with the consent of Khan). --Richhoncho (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Richhoncho, the original song's lyrics were written by Javed Akhtar and composed by NFAK.^[1] However, when it was recreated in 2016, it was (additionally) written by Khalish with an explicit permission from the authors and composed by Mehmood. Thank you. Empire AS ^Talk! 07:41, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Empire AS. Thanks for the clarification, especially in the text for the article. It is something I had seen several times and was beginning to wonder how and where the error was occuring and if it needed correcting. However, again I query 'musical director' entered in the composer box, not the same as composer. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:52, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Richhoncho, the original composer is NFAK. But Mehmood is only the director of music. He isn't the original composer of song. See Afreen_Afreen#Song_credits. Empire AS ^Talk! 08:00, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Which is why I would argue he should not be shown as composer in the 2nd info box. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:07, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Richhoncho, I don't think so. He should be there as he is the director of additional music and has significant contribution in it. Empire AS ^Talk! 08:11, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

But a musical director is not a composer of the piece (i.e. George Martin is never credited on Beatle tracks as composer), unless otherwise agreed, have your checked your PRO? NB I am not changing anything as there are no easy answers. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:15, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Richhoncho, I don't know George Martin. I also didn't understand your comment of the abbreviations 'PRO' and 'NB'. Due to which I'm unable to answer. Empire AS ^Talk! 08:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Empire AS George Martin was the arranger for the Beatles, but never received any songwriting credits/royalties, an example, but common for the type of work; PRO = Publishing Rights Organisation and if their data base is open will list the guys that actually receive the songwriter money. Try searching [1] for songs available in the US. You may find this article interesting. Cheers.--Richhoncho (talk) 08:32, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

That's interesting. Perhaps it's the reason for credit. Empire AS ^Talk! 12:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Richhoncho, I do have a question. What is written first in a song 'the music (melody)' or 'the lyrics'. In other words, is the song composed before lyrics are later. If music first, then is it written with a certain theme in mind that will be used for the lyrics or just went with the flow once it's all made. If lyrics first, then music that matches the lyrics impressions? Thank you. Empire AS ^Talk! 10:07, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't make any difference, unless otherwise agreed by the parties, composer and lyricist share royalties 50/50. If somebody comes along, for instance and writes new lyrics then the original lyricist is entitled to royalties. Would also apply if new music written to same lyrics. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:18, 30 October 2020 (UTC)