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Revision as of 10:56, 1 July 2019 edit DanBCDanBC (talk \| contribs) 153 edits reply to nick: obviously WMF look at more than just the complaint, they look at years of edit history. ← Previous edit		Revision as of 10:59, 1 July 2019 edit undo Bilorv (talk \| contribs) Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers 38,677 edits No edit summary Next edit →
Line 60: :Nick - T&S look at years of post history of both the complainant and the person accused of harassment. They don't only look at the complaint without any context. Wikipedia has tolerated abusive harassment for far too long and the WMF action is welcome. [[User:DanBCDanBC\|DanBCDanBC]] ([[User talk:DanBCDanBC\|talk]]) 10:55, 1 July 2019 (UTC) [[Are you still beating your wife?]] This is one of the most crass examples of [[trial by media]] I've seen. Fram has no opportunity to defend himself or explain his actions in specific examples, many of which have been stripped of all context and background. A more despicable use of a Spotlight article I can ever remember seeing. - [[User:SchroCat\|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat\|talk]]) 10:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC) *:{{tq\|Fram has no opportunity to defend himself or explain his actions in specific examples}} is simply not correct. The article makes it clear that discussion with Fram was repeatedly contacted and engaged in discussion with each claim made against him. See Smallbones' comment at ANI ([[Special:Diff/904265184\|diff]]): {{tq\|OK, what people don't seem to realize is that Fram was given several chances to respond to this quote and didn't. He had the opportunity to respond to other quotes and to the whole article and did, as you can see in the article He cooperated very nicely with the investigation. Referring to the same quote that most people are talking about here he emailed me "No, feel free to post it (with that line removed as it was confusing, thanks)," where "that line" was a previous response where I thought that he had misread the quote so had informed him of it again. Fram's given me permission to post most of his emails, but there are a couple of exceptions.}} <span class="nowrap">— '''[[User:Bilorv\|Bilorv]]''' (he/him) <sub>[[User talk:Bilorv\|('''talk''')]]</sub></span> 10:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)