Talk:Useful idiot: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Revision as of 07:00, 3 March 2018 edit Thucydides411 (talk \| contribs) Extended confirmed users 6,776 edits →‎Long Quotation of Michael Hayden ← Previous edit		Revision as of 07:18, 3 March 2018 edit undo Valjean (talk \| contribs) Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers 92,699 edits →‎Long Quotation of Michael Hayden: This is an actual example of how it's used in the real world, from a real case. It can't get much better. Next edit →
Line 605: ::Readers can click on the link if they're so inclined. I still haven't seen anyone make the case, based on due weight, for this one quotation, in contrast to all the others we reference, being pasted at length into the footnotes. The arguments so far have been, essentially, that Hayden is {{tq\|consummately professional}} or that {{tq\|We'd be wise to listen closely}}. I think we'd be wise to listen closely to [[Tony Judt]]. That's irrelevant here though - we're just trying to illustrate how the term "useful idiot" is typically used. -[[User:Thucydides411\|Thucydides411]] ([[User talk:Thucydides411\|talk]]) 07:00, 3 March 2018 (UTC) ::: Yes, and regardless of what we think of Trump, the quote is uniquely suited to this article, and probably better than any other example. This is an actual example of how it's used in the real world, from a real case. It can't get much better. Many of the arguments against using it are unabashed attempts to protect Trump, and it's tiring and unwikipedian, so just forget it's about him and look at the quote itself. It's really a good example. Two for the price of one. -- [[User:BullRangifer\|BullRangifer]] ([[User talk:BullRangifer\|talk]]) <u><small>'''''PingMe'''''</small></u> 07:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)